Of course, that's inappropriate and rude. So were you, but we all know that you know better.
From, Emily On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Béria Lima <beria.l...@wikimedia.pt> wrote: > This is highly inappropriate: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beria&diff=3706794&oldid=3691439(at > that is just the last one, I can give you both a pile bigger than the > Everest) > > And none of you are seing me complain about it. A single mail with irony > and you run around claiming misogyny and rudeness? As the meme says: Bitch, > please<http://deborahdekrem.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/4f35923e34365_bitch-please.png> > ! > _____ > *Béria Lima* > > *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a > construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > On 6 May 2012 14:35, Emily Monroe <emilymonro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Excuse me, Beria, but I agree that your tone is, in fact, >> highly inappropriate. >> >> From, >> Emily >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Béria Lima <beria.l...@wikimedia.pt>wrote: >> >>> Sarah, until i tell you to "fuck off" I'm being respectful to you. >>> Actually the simple meaning of taking time in my volunteer, no paid work as >>> a wikimedian to answer your mail show I respect you. >>> >>> To your idea: Ever heard of OTRS system? I'm sure with all your "work" >>> for GLAM you already did, so if you have some image you want in commons ask >>> them to release in a compatible license. >>> >>> HIRE someone to take pictures for us is a very idiotic idea, with the >>> full amount of great photographers who take pictures for free to upload on >>> commons, even more, hire the models as well can almost qualify as the most >>> idiot idea ever. >>> >>> I do believe in volunteer work Sarah, which is the basis of our wiki >>> way. Try to get something by paying people to do where you simply don't >>> know if can be done by volunteers - since no one ever asked - is, in my >>> humble opinion, stupid. >>> _____ >>> *Béria Lima* >>> >>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter >>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a >>> construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* >>> >>> >>> On 6 May 2012 14:24, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/6/12 1:20 PM, Béria Lima wrote: >>>> >>>> Good idea Sarah. Prove everyone in the world we don't even have enough >>>> woman in the 9% of editors who can take a picture of some "trivial" thing. >>>> Prove the world the only way to have picture of girls in commons is hiring >>>> models and photographers to take them. >>>> >>>> I have NO idea why no one thought of this before! >>>> >>>> >>>> Beria, I'd appreciate a more respectful tone. As always, with me, and >>>> anyone else on this list. The snarkiness of your comment isn't one to make >>>> me want to participate or share my brainstorms or ideas on this list. >>>> >>>> Just because you disagree with my idea, doesn't mean others might find >>>> value in it, and it might improve content. Not every woman wants to edit >>>> Wikipedia and I have met women who are photographers who have expressed >>>> interest in uploading photographs and also women who would rather >>>> participate as volunteers to be photographed. Using the term model does not >>>> necessarily mean traditional "model body types" of women. Anyone can be a >>>> model if you put them in front of a camera. >>>> >>>> Again, please be a bit more polite in your responses on this list. I >>>> know I'm not the only person who would appreciate that. Thank you, >>>> >>>> -Sarah >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _____ >>>> *Béria Lima* >>>> >>>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter >>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a >>>> construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6 May 2012 14:13, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 5/6/12 1:07 PM, Carol Moore DC wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 5/2/2012 9:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Don't miss >>>>> http://thehairpin.com/2011/01/women-laughing-alone-with-salad >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Where are women laughing as they chop up bloody sausage... >>>>> >>>>> To me I guess I see hostility and dominance in the kind of shots >>>>> people have been complaining about. I don't think women should respond en >>>>> masse with the same, but if no one responds at all, I feel it is my duty >>>>> to >>>>> mention bloody sausages. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, women have responded here, but I guess not enough of a ping >>>>> in the fabric of world wide male dominance for me to keep my bloody >>>>> sausages to my self... >>>>> >>>>> Hmmm... maybe I should write some of my favorite artists with >>>>> suggestions.... >>>>> >>>>> Or get rich and commission a bunch of stuff I like... whatever the >>>>> them... >>>>> >>>>> (Handsome male dogs of various breeds on their backs smiling and >>>>> saying "Scratch my belly mommy.") >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There was an idea brainstormed a little while back with me and a few >>>>> other folks about seeking funding to have a "Wiki Loves Women" photography >>>>> event that wanted photographers to take photographs of women - and this >>>>> wouldn't be some broad crowdsourced thing like WLM, we would work with >>>>> photographers, various "models" etc and make this legit with releases, etc >>>>> - doing whatever we needed them to be better represented doing, so to say. >>>>> So, wearing certain articles of clothing (i.e. "go go boots"), certain >>>>> make >>>>> up looks or uses, hairstyles, - places that are often poorly represented >>>>> regarding "women's stuff" (i.e. men don't get manicures that often, sorry) >>>>> even as extreme as sex acts, I also wanted to just have women doing >>>>> "things" like mowing the lawn and planting flowers or pan searing salmon >>>>> or >>>>> whatever things need videos to represent them (and no, these women >>>>> wouldn't >>>>> be nude :P). The latter was inspired by Jenny Geigel Mikulay's work at >>>>> Alverno College where she had her students (it's a women's college) make >>>>> films of things like playing drums, the art museum building kinetic >>>>> architecture time-lapsed, etc. All of these videos have been uploaded to >>>>> Commons. >>>>> >>>>> Someday I'll do it =) I can see it being a project that would be a >>>>> perfect fit for Kickstarter. >>>>> >>>>> Sarah >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Sarah Stierch* >>>>> *Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow* >>>>> >>Mind the gap! Support Wikipedia women's outreach: donate >>>>> >>today<https://donate.wikimedia.org/> >>>>> << >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing >>>> listGendergap@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Sarah Stierch* >>>> *Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow* >>>> >>Mind the gap! 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