Sarah, until i tell you to "fuck off" I'm being respectful to you. Actually
the simple meaning of taking time in my volunteer, no paid work as a
wikimedian to answer your mail show I respect you.

To your idea: Ever heard of OTRS system? I'm sure with all your "work" for
GLAM you already did, so if you have some image you want in commons ask
them to release in a compatible license.

HIRE someone to take pictures for us is a very idiotic idea, with the full
amount of great photographers who take pictures for free to upload on
commons, even more, hire the models as well can almost qualify as the most
idiot idea ever.

I do believe in volunteer work Sarah, which is the basis of our wiki way.
Try to get something by paying people to do where you simply don't know if
can be done by volunteers - since no one ever asked - is, in my humble
opinion, stupid.
_____
*Béria Lima*

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
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On 6 May 2012 14:24, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  On 5/6/12 1:20 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
>
> Good idea Sarah. Prove everyone in the world we don't even have enough
> woman in the 9% of editors who can take a picture of some "trivial" thing.
> Prove the world the only way to have picture of girls in commons is hiring
> models and photographers to take them.
>
> I have NO idea why no one thought of this before!
>
>
> Beria, I'd appreciate a more respectful tone. As always, with me, and
> anyone else on this list. The snarkiness of your comment isn't one to make
> me want to participate or share my brainstorms or ideas on this list.
>
> Just because you disagree with my idea, doesn't mean others might find
> value in it, and it might improve content. Not every woman wants to edit
> Wikipedia and I have met women who are photographers who have expressed
> interest in uploading photographs and also women who would rather
> participate as volunteers to be photographed. Using the term model does not
> necessarily mean traditional "model body types" of women. Anyone can be a
> model if you put them in front of a camera.
>
> Again, please be a bit more polite in your responses on this list. I know
> I'm not the only person who would appreciate that. Thank you,
>
> -Sarah
>
>
>
> _____
> *Béria Lima*
>
> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
> construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>*
>
>
> On 6 May 2012 14:13, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  On 5/6/12 1:07 PM, Carol Moore DC wrote:
>>
>> On 5/2/2012 9:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
>>
>>
>> Don't miss http://thehairpin.com/2011/01/women-laughing-alone-with-salad
>>
>>
>>  Where are women laughing as they chop up bloody sausage...
>>
>> To me I guess I see hostility and dominance in the kind of shots people
>> have been complaining about.  I don't think women should respond en masse
>> with the same, but if no one responds at all, I feel it is my duty to
>> mention bloody sausages.
>>
>> Of course, women have responded here, but I guess not enough of a ping in
>> the fabric of world wide male dominance for me to keep my bloody sausages
>> to my self...
>>
>> Hmmm... maybe I should write some of my favorite artists with
>> suggestions....
>>
>> Or get rich and commission a bunch of stuff I like... whatever the
>> them...
>>
>> (Handsome male dogs of various breeds on their backs smiling and saying
>> "Scratch my belly mommy.")
>>
>>
>>  There was an idea brainstormed a little while back with me and a few
>> other folks about seeking funding to have a "Wiki Loves Women" photography
>> event that wanted photographers to take photographs of women - and this
>> wouldn't be some broad crowdsourced thing like WLM, we would work with
>> photographers, various "models" etc and make this legit with releases, etc
>> - doing whatever we needed them to be better represented doing, so to say.
>> So, wearing certain articles of clothing (i.e. "go go boots"), certain make
>> up looks or uses, hairstyles, - places that are often poorly represented
>> regarding "women's stuff" (i.e. men don't get manicures that often, sorry)
>> even as extreme as sex acts, I also wanted to just have women doing
>> "things" like mowing the lawn and planting flowers or pan searing salmon or
>> whatever things need videos to represent them (and no, these women wouldn't
>> be nude :P). The latter was inspired by Jenny Geigel Mikulay's work at
>> Alverno College where she had her students (it's a women's college) make
>> films of things like playing drums, the art museum building kinetic
>> architecture time-lapsed, etc. All of these videos have been uploaded to
>> Commons.
>>
>> Someday I'll do it =) I can see it being a project that would be a
>> perfect fit for Kickstarter.
>>
>> Sarah
>>
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