Excuse me, Beria, but I agree that your tone is, in fact, highly inappropriate.
From, Emily On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Béria Lima <beria.l...@wikimedia.pt> wrote: > Sarah, until i tell you to "fuck off" I'm being respectful to you. > Actually the simple meaning of taking time in my volunteer, no paid work as > a wikimedian to answer your mail show I respect you. > > To your idea: Ever heard of OTRS system? I'm sure with all your "work" for > GLAM you already did, so if you have some image you want in commons ask > them to release in a compatible license. > > HIRE someone to take pictures for us is a very idiotic idea, with the full > amount of great photographers who take pictures for free to upload on > commons, even more, hire the models as well can almost qualify as the most > idiot idea ever. > > I do believe in volunteer work Sarah, which is the basis of our wiki way. > Try to get something by paying people to do where you simply don't know if > can be done by volunteers - since no one ever asked - is, in my humble > opinion, stupid. > _____ > *Béria Lima* > > *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a > construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > On 6 May 2012 14:24, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 5/6/12 1:20 PM, Béria Lima wrote: >> >> Good idea Sarah. Prove everyone in the world we don't even have enough >> woman in the 9% of editors who can take a picture of some "trivial" thing. >> Prove the world the only way to have picture of girls in commons is hiring >> models and photographers to take them. >> >> I have NO idea why no one thought of this before! >> >> >> Beria, I'd appreciate a more respectful tone. As always, with me, and >> anyone else on this list. The snarkiness of your comment isn't one to make >> me want to participate or share my brainstorms or ideas on this list. >> >> Just because you disagree with my idea, doesn't mean others might find >> value in it, and it might improve content. Not every woman wants to edit >> Wikipedia and I have met women who are photographers who have expressed >> interest in uploading photographs and also women who would rather >> participate as volunteers to be photographed. Using the term model does not >> necessarily mean traditional "model body types" of women. Anyone can be a >> model if you put them in front of a camera. >> >> Again, please be a bit more polite in your responses on this list. I know >> I'm not the only person who would appreciate that. Thank you, >> >> -Sarah >> >> >> >> _____ >> *Béria Lima* >> >> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter >> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a >> construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* >> >> >> On 6 May 2012 14:13, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 5/6/12 1:07 PM, Carol Moore DC wrote: >>> >>> On 5/2/2012 9:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: >>> >>> >>> Don't miss http://thehairpin.com/2011/01/women-laughing-alone-with-salad >>> >>> >>> Where are women laughing as they chop up bloody sausage... >>> >>> To me I guess I see hostility and dominance in the kind of shots people >>> have been complaining about. I don't think women should respond en masse >>> with the same, but if no one responds at all, I feel it is my duty to >>> mention bloody sausages. >>> >>> Of course, women have responded here, but I guess not enough of a ping >>> in the fabric of world wide male dominance for me to keep my bloody >>> sausages to my self... >>> >>> Hmmm... maybe I should write some of my favorite artists with >>> suggestions.... >>> >>> Or get rich and commission a bunch of stuff I like... whatever the >>> them... >>> >>> (Handsome male dogs of various breeds on their backs smiling and saying >>> "Scratch my belly mommy.") >>> >>> >>> There was an idea brainstormed a little while back with me and a few >>> other folks about seeking funding to have a "Wiki Loves Women" photography >>> event that wanted photographers to take photographs of women - and this >>> wouldn't be some broad crowdsourced thing like WLM, we would work with >>> photographers, various "models" etc and make this legit with releases, etc >>> - doing whatever we needed them to be better represented doing, so to say. >>> So, wearing certain articles of clothing (i.e. "go go boots"), certain make >>> up looks or uses, hairstyles, - places that are often poorly represented >>> regarding "women's stuff" (i.e. men don't get manicures that often, sorry) >>> even as extreme as sex acts, I also wanted to just have women doing >>> "things" like mowing the lawn and planting flowers or pan searing salmon or >>> whatever things need videos to represent them (and no, these women wouldn't >>> be nude :P). The latter was inspired by Jenny Geigel Mikulay's work at >>> Alverno College where she had her students (it's a women's college) make >>> films of things like playing drums, the art museum building kinetic >>> architecture time-lapsed, etc. All of these videos have been uploaded to >>> Commons. >>> >>> Someday I'll do it =) I can see it being a project that would be a >>> perfect fit for Kickstarter. >>> >>> Sarah >>> >>> -- >>> *Sarah Stierch* >>> *Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow* >>> >>Mind the gap! 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