On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Valerie Aurora
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'm going to point out that posting sexually objectifying photos of
> people of any gender or sexuality in a venue that is intended to be
> equally accessible to all is still inherently discriminatory towards
> women specifically. This is because the sexualized imagery occurs in
> the context of widespread misogyny and sexism which includes the
> sexual double standard for women, the objectification (in a very
> literal sense) of women in sexual situations, and a much higher
> prevalence of sexual violence against women than men (I don't know the
> stats for people who don't identify as either but I'm sure they aren't
> good either).
>
> In other words, because the vast majority of humans alive today live
> in cultures where sexual attitudes about women are so negative,
> bringing up sex in a venue like this immediately creates a hostile
> environment for women. I am repeating some of what Sumana already
> wrote, just being very clear that pictures of male cheesecake or
> sexualized photos of homosexual men also create a hostile environment
> for women.
>
> Other venues are a different matter. It is indeed possible to create a
> safer and more welcoming environment in which sex can be discussed or
> displayed with less or no harm to women, but Picture of the Day is not
> it.
>
> This is something I have to explain constantly to tech startups here
> in the Bay Area, comprised often of mostly men who think there's
> nothing wrong with literally covering the office walls with penis
> jokes because "we're making fun of male genitalia, so that can't be
> sexist towards women." These attitudes have real and lasting harm,
> both for Wikimedia project participation and content, and for many
> other areas of society.
>
> -VAL
>
>
This is something that I don't really understand, but I'd like to. However
I won't ask you to explain, since it's probably not a great use of your
time, but could you point me to some concise discussion of why sexual or
sexualized imagery of any kind is inherently discriminatory against women?
Is this a commonly accepted viewpoint in academic feminism? Is there an
easy way to draw a line between discriminatory and non-discriminatory
imagery? (i.e. is a beach selfie of a woman in a bikini posted to Instagram
discriminatory, regardless of intent?).

Thanks for any references someone can provide where I might find answers to
those questions.

~Nathan
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