I believe it's a subject of much debate (even among feminists), but some of the basic ideas are covered at http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Sexualized_environment
Ryan On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Nathan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Valerie Aurora <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> I'm going to point out that posting sexually objectifying photos of >> people of any gender or sexuality in a venue that is intended to be >> equally accessible to all is still inherently discriminatory towards >> women specifically. This is because the sexualized imagery occurs in >> the context of widespread misogyny and sexism which includes the >> sexual double standard for women, the objectification (in a very >> literal sense) of women in sexual situations, and a much higher >> prevalence of sexual violence against women than men (I don't know the >> stats for people who don't identify as either but I'm sure they aren't >> good either). >> >> In other words, because the vast majority of humans alive today live >> in cultures where sexual attitudes about women are so negative, >> bringing up sex in a venue like this immediately creates a hostile >> environment for women. I am repeating some of what Sumana already >> wrote, just being very clear that pictures of male cheesecake or >> sexualized photos of homosexual men also create a hostile environment >> for women. >> >> Other venues are a different matter. It is indeed possible to create a >> safer and more welcoming environment in which sex can be discussed or >> displayed with less or no harm to women, but Picture of the Day is not >> it. >> >> This is something I have to explain constantly to tech startups here >> in the Bay Area, comprised often of mostly men who think there's >> nothing wrong with literally covering the office walls with penis >> jokes because "we're making fun of male genitalia, so that can't be >> sexist towards women." These attitudes have real and lasting harm, >> both for Wikimedia project participation and content, and for many >> other areas of society. >> >> -VAL >> >> > This is something that I don't really understand, but I'd like to. However > I won't ask you to explain, since it's probably not a great use of your > time, but could you point me to some concise discussion of why sexual or > sexualized imagery of any kind is inherently discriminatory against women? > Is this a commonly accepted viewpoint in academic feminism? Is there an > easy way to draw a line between discriminatory and non-discriminatory > imagery? (i.e. is a beach selfie of a woman in a bikini posted to Instagram > discriminatory, regardless of intent?). > > Thanks for any references someone can provide where I might find answers > to those questions. > > ~Nathan > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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