Ahh. I am not certain how "public" that particular preference is; I'm fairly certain there's no public list. The preference was installed on all WMF wikis at the request of projects where there is a different term for "user" depending on the self-identified gender of the user. (For example, the user pages of self-identified female editors on our German projects uses the feminine term for "user".) Not quite sure what the result is on English Wikipedia - is there a list somewhere?
Risker/Anne On 31 December 2014 at 10:59, LB <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, I'm brainstorming, but yes... a project that is only open to women > or those who identify as women. And yes, that would mean identifying (via > one's "she edits" preference - as I know of no other ways to identify, > right?) Hypothetically, is there anything to prevent us from doing it? > > (I just went and re-identified as "she edits." I had turned that off for a > while when I first started getting harassed, but WTF. I'm tired of hiding. > I'll bet other women are tired of hiding, too.) > > > Lightbreather > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Could you please clarify, Lightbreather? Do you mean a wikiproject that >> is *only* open to women/those who identify as women? Because all >> wikiprojects are open to all interested editors, generally speaking. >> >> Would that not require editors to have to publicly self-identify? How >> would that be done? >> >> Risker/Anne >> >> On 31 December 2014 at 10:31, LB <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Is it simply impossible to start a Wikipedia project that's open to >>> women, or people who identify as women? (I'm sorry if I don't use the >>> correct terms, but I haven't kept up with them in recent years.) >>> >>> I mean if we did it... what would the consequences be? >>> >>> >>> Lightbreather >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Sarah <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:43 PM, LB <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why abandon it? Let's reclaim it. Just ignore those who try to >>>>> distract and derail. There are sanctions so no nastiness, but nastiness is >>>>> not my usual style anyway. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I don't know whether it's better to abandon, reclaim or move it. But >>>> it has been a lesson in how deep Wikipedia's sexism runs. Any journalists >>>> in future wanting examples of it need only read those archives and the >>>> dispute-resolution threads that failed to deal with it (which one of us >>>> ought to compile at some point). >>>> >>>> Marie, I saw the suggestion on GGTF that women might prefer to edit >>>> "[f]ashion, cookery, domestic affairs, childrearing". Is it worth >>>> continuing with it when that's what we have to deal with? >>>> >>>> Sarah >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 30, 2014 10:25 AM, "Marie Earley" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We're abandoning the GGTF on Wikipedia? Fair enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> It was just that I had an editor accused me of radical feminism POV >>>>>> pushing on GGTF via my talk page (I dared to say that it was >>>>>> "interesting" >>>>>> that the example topics that he thought women would be interested in >>>>>> editing, other than feminism, might be "*fashion, cookery, domestic >>>>>> affairs and childrearing*" rather than "*science, business, >>>>>> filmmaking or politics*"). There was then this follow-on swipe on >>>>>> GGTF. >>>>>> >>>>>> > "...one of the reasonable first steps toward seeing what women in >>>>>> wikipedia thinks needs to be done most would be to actively ask women who >>>>>> have self-identified as women what content of particular interest to >>>>>> women >>>>>> might be underrepresented or undercovered here. Those women would >>>>>> presumably be in a better position to clearly state their concerns than >>>>>> would be individuals who can only speculate on them or draw potentially >>>>>> flawed assumptions based on limited previous personal experience." >>>>>> >>>>>> So, my potentially flawed assumptions and limited previous personal >>>>>> experience are surplus to requirements at the GGTF. The plan now seems to >>>>>> go out and find answers that fit a pre-existing narrative about what is >>>>>> causing the Gender Gap. >>>>>> >>>>>> So... "I believe the Gender Gap is caused by women who want to write >>>>>> about knitting thinking that Wikipedia does not welcome articles about >>>>>> knitting." I will create a skewed survey to fit this narrative and get >>>>>> the >>>>>> "right kind of women" to fill it in and prove my pre-conceived notions >>>>>> correct. >>>>>> >>>>>> I really don't see the point of it. If you ask 1,000 female editors, >>>>>> "What kind of articles do you like to edit?", then you'll get 1,000 >>>>>> answers >>>>>> with a wide variety of topics. What would that prove? Suppose you find >>>>>> 90% >>>>>> of them edit traditionally feminine topics, what conclusion would you >>>>>> draw >>>>>> from it? Would it prove that they clearly prefer to edit those topics, or >>>>>> those are the topics that they feel less likely to encounter >>>>>> intimidation, >>>>>> or a combination of the two? I just think the GGTF board is currently >>>>>> being >>>>>> used to promote a truly pointless exercise. >>>>>> >>>>>> Marie >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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