Yes, I just suggest that you find as much research as you can to prove why this type of thing would work.
But, perhaps I'm just paranoid. I have had almost every project I have ever started nominated for deletion. So....I'm paranoid :) "Why does Wikipedia need a woman-centric space for people who identify as women to contribute to Wikipedia" -Sarah On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LB <lightbreath...@gmail.com> wrote: > A women's project might be a nice complement to the collaborative and the > teahouse. The collaborative is a great choice for women who like to use > Facebook and Twitter, but some don't. The teahouse is OK (and I'd like to > offer myself as a mentor for women editors there), but even there the > testosterone can run high sometimes. > > Lightbreather > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Some thoughts...some ok some negative about a project for women. >> >> Spaces that promote sisterhood and women only that are public generally >> have overwhelming woman. participation and men often play the role of >> observers. >> >> That's why I created the WikiWomens Collab. While men "like it", it's >> extremely rare they interact with it. A place can be public and be focused >> on women. >> >> But, I do think it will be a challenge on EN WP. That is why WWC was a >> social media campaign. Women are there. There is a wiki women's group on >> Facebook too and a few guys have joined but they don't interact on it. its >> clearly for Women by women (those identifying as women). >> >> I am concerned about a shit storm starting a woman centric space on WP. >> As long as there is research to prove to the community it might work. You >> have to show it - we had to do it with the Teahouse. It was nominated for >> deletion when it was created!! >> >> I put together an entire project page on meta with this research >> someplace.. >> >> There is also an editor retention project already. People will ask - why >> not just work in that space? >> >> Also, the wikiprojects for WP feminism, women art/science/writers are >> also overwhelmingly female. I recruited at the beginning but now I am just >> burnt out so I don't spend time doing it..and the subject gets little press >> coverage anymore so cries to engaging women have lowered in the press. So >> this will require more on the boots support. And how will you promote it - >> especially if you don't know the gender of editors. I guess you can build >> it and they will come. >> >> So I would think hard before creating something new and thing about what >> already exists and how to leverage it. And if you cannot leverage it...try >> it. >> >> I spent a year of my life at WMF working on all of this. We had that idea >> and canned it and ended up creating the Teahouse. That was created to >> welcome and help new editors with research focusing on women. It worked. It >> sounds like you would just be making another Teahouse but for women. >> >> It's funny seeing this conversation happening again. :) it's good though >> >> Sarah >> (Sent from my phone) >> On Dec 31, 2014 8:38 AM, "LB" <lightbreath...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I've started two separate mailing list topics today - Women of GGTF and >>> WP:WOMEN - but they haven't posted. You do send to >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org, right? I think that's what I've used >>> before. >>> >>> Lightbreather >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 31 December 2014 at 11:18, LB <lightbreath...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can imagine the complaints and hurdles. The discussion is it >>>>> possible? Could it work? >>>>> >>>>> To your specific questions, if there's no page-protection option, can >>>>> there be? If it's absolutely impossible, then the moderators would have to >>>>> keep an eye on those things. Also, I think there would be parts of the >>>>> project that would be vehemently opposed, but others who wouldn't care one >>>>> way or another, and some who would welcome such a space with open arms. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know about EEML. I will read that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> The EEML (Eastern European Mailing List) was an invitation-only mailing >>>> list populated by a group of editors who supported each other in content >>>> contributions, deletion discussions, and other on-wiki activities related >>>> generally to the Eastern European region of the world (including articles >>>> on the history, economics, politics, notable persons, geography, etc. of >>>> the region). The mailing list was non-public. Almost all participants on >>>> the list were very significantly sanctioned (including some permanent bans, >>>> some topic bans, and a desysop) because of the attempt to manage content in >>>> a non-transparent way, in addition to the entire canvassing aspect. >>>> >>>> There was once a Wikichix mailing list, moderated and very similar to >>>> the one described by Lightbreather. It died a slow death several years ago >>>> because, essentially, nobody really had much to say there, absent the >>>> ability to discuss actual content. >>>> >>>> Risker/Anne >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > -- Sarah Stierch ----- Diverse and engaging consulting for your organization. www.sarahstierch.com
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