Point taken You are encouraged to vote against everybody else if you support somebody really really strongly
Best regards, antanana ED of Wikimedia Ukraine 2015-06-09 12:58 GMT+03:00 WereSpielChequers <[email protected]>: > One problem with Oppose in that electoral system is that unlike say RFA > you don't know why individual people are opposing, though you can make > deductions from patterns. For example, as one might have expected the > tension between the WMF and the community over the last two years resulted > in a lot of oppose votes for incumbents. > > I would like to hope we don't have anyone who simply opposes or indeed > supports based on gender, but one of the drawbacks of that system is that > people can anonymously do that. > > But the biggest drawback of having oppose in that system is that you can't > differentiate between people who are voting oppose because they have > something against a particular candidate, and people who know one candidate > and vote in the logical way to give most effective support for that > candidate. ie support the one candidate you know and oppose all the others. > I prefer more proportional systems such as the STV system used in Ireland, > aside from encouraging people to vote "positively" such systems also tend > to elect a more diverse set of candidates. > > Regards > > Jonathan Cardy > > > On 8 Jun 2015, at 18:57, attolippip <[email protected]> wrote: > > Pardon me, Zana, but why? > Oppose is just as good as Support, I believe. It means that people have > feelings about you. > And you can change that. Indifference is the problem, imho > > <small>And I still cannot understand why the voting is not open and > public... > We are supposed to get used to express our opinions without fear being > (mostly) Wikipedians, aren't we? > > If I vote against someone and it means anything to him/her, (s)he can just > ask me why and we can talk (we can do it beforehand, of course :)) > The same thing is about voting for smb. Is it not interesting to know who > supports you and why? > And the other way around. I would love to know what motivates people to > vote against me. > It helps to see if one is going in the right direction, whatever they may > think about it</small> > > Best regards, > antanana > ED of Wikimedia Ukraine > > 2015-06-08 20:37 GMT+03:00 Risker <[email protected]>: > >> >> On 6 June 2015 at 18:32, Zana Strkovska <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> Thank you Anne for mention "only one woman candidate for FDC this year", >>> it was me. >>> I would like to say something: not time, not money is issue for me (I am >>> free lancer, meaning I can manage my time). My theory is that I didn't pass >>> because I didn't answer questions in the way the community wanted. >>> >>> I am not sure how many woman we have who are free to help, serve and >>> travel. But, what I found discourage after mine failure is the oppose >>> votes. One thing is to see how many Wikipedians voted for you, but it's not >>> so pleasant to count oppose votes. >>> >>> I hope my words could help on why women aren't generally volunteering to >>> run. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Zana >>> (user:Violetova) >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> Zana - I would really like to encourage you to post that at the election >> post-mortem page, perhaps in the section about voting methodology (which is >> titled "Electoral system").[1] Your perspective, as a candidate, is really >> important on this issue. I have said for a while now that I am unlikely >> to ever participate in another WMF-related election, but it was only on >> reading what you wrote here that I realized how demoralizing the opposes >> are in any of these elections for me as well. >> >> >> Risker/Anne >> >> [1] >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2015/Post_mortem >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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