Michael,

Sounds good.  You can bypass the router to eliminate it as part of the
problem.  When you did your upstream calculations, what did you come up
with?  What CPU are you using on your SAM node and how much memory and cache
does it have?  How old is your hard drive and when was the last time you
defragged all drives SAM is using?  Are you using CATEGORY or DIRECTORY
rotation?  Are you using Ping Plotter?  If not, go to their website and take
their 30-day free trial.

Cheers,
Tony 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Michael Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [General-discussion] Buffering issue

That all makes perfect sense Tony, thank you. I spent an hour on the phone
last evening with a tech from the WMA stream host. We played ping games for
that time. Out of it all were some interesting findings. Unfortunately,
there is not much that can be done about it.

I am not going to bore everyone with the detail-details. But we discovered
whenever there was a buffering issue, it general occured when routing went
through AT&T's pipes on the internet.

We also discovered that there was an issue with my local provider
(RoadRunner). There was discernable delays in the stream on a consistent
basis. Not always enough to call them suspect, but they held a lot of the
higher delay rates.

Another suspect wass my router on the stream network. All of these things
could verywell contribute to the problem. The interesting thing was that I
was the only one complaining about the cut-outs and buffering issue. I have
never had anyone complain as a listener. As a matter of fact, this tech in
VA, only notice a couple drop-outs while he listened to my stream.

So, short of getting a new router that has pack prioritization settings, it
seems to just be me experiencing the problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Partigianoni" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: [General-discussion] Buffering issue


> Michael,
>
> With multiple streams the risk of buffering increase as each encoder 
> is competing for resources.  If the WMP stream is a higher bandwidth 
> stream, that might explain why it is buffering.  When you determine if 
> you have enough UPSTREAM bandwidth be sure an allow at least 25% 
> overhead on each stream.  i.e. 64k + 96k + 128k = 288k * 1.25 = 360k. 
> You also need to calculate how much upstream bandwidth other 
> applications are using on the same computer and all other nodes on the
same network.
>
> Run some tests that measure upstream bandwidth.  If you are running 
> Shoutcast, check the logs for disconnects.  If you're sure your end is 
> clear, then check with some of the other Christiannetcast broadcasters 
> to see what experience they are having.  Christiannetcast may be over 
> extending their network and/or not keep with up with resource demands.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Hughes" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:29 PM
> Subject: [General-discussion] Buffering issue
>
>
> I am using three separate stream host providers. Live365, Loudcity and 
> now Chrisitannetcast.com. The first tow are MP3 streams and the last 
> is a WMA stream.
>
> I can listen to the first two all day long and not hear a blip, burp 
> or delay. The last one I am constantly having buffering delays. Is 
> that a problem on my end or theirs?
>
> Michael
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