If your streaming to a cable company for them to re-stream it for you then
they have the bandwidth to pick up a full speed stream, I suggest no less
than 128k.
It is always best to go with the highest quality possible.

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Chris Haslage <[email protected]>wrote:

> I agree, for my listeners on the popup player I use 64k WMA but I would
> really like to use 80-96K WMA.  If your music is techno or something that
> needs high bitrate because of the genre then go 128k AAC.  I am lucky that
> I
> play the classics and a little crackle and minor fidelity loss is not a
> problem.
>
> Chris
> http://www.studiohits.com/player/
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Steve Kunitzer <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > If that's the case then broadcast in 128kbps AAC or 320kbps MP3;
> definitely
> > not 56kbps of any format.
> > Make sure to use sources encoded at or above the target bitrate.
> >
> > Steve Kunitzer
> > http://www.festerhead.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Priebe wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, by-and-large I agree, but in this case on of our "listeners" will
> be
> >> a local cable company who will be distributing our signal. As a result,
> I
> >> want the highest possible quality.
> >>
> >> Jim
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From [email protected]  Wed Jan 14 16:05:02 2009
From: [email protected] (James Henline)
Date: Wed Jan 14 17:30:18 2009
Subject: [General-discussion] winamp
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

What sort of problems Jim?
Also, 56k is roughly equal to AM, 96k is closer to FM and 128k would be CD
quality.

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jim Priebe
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> Yes good point, our sources are above the target.
>
> As for 128AAC I'm not sure internet infrastructure will allow a constant &
> reliable stream at this bandwidth, or am I out to lunch here? (I don't mean
> my particular setup, I mean everything between the source and the listener).
>
> Also, our comparison is the FM signal. My understanding is that 56kps
> produces higher-than-fm quality.
>
> Jim
>
> Steve Kunitzer wrote:
>
>> If that's the case then broadcast in 128kbps AAC or 320kbps MP3;
>> definitely not 56kbps of any format.
>> Make sure to use sources encoded at or above the target bitrate.
>>
>> Steve Kunitzer
>> http://www.festerhead.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Priebe wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, by-and-large I agree, but in this case on of our "listeners" will be
>>> a local cable company who will be distributing our signal. As a result, I
>>> want the highest possible quality.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
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From [email protected]  Wed Jan 14 19:13:49 2009
From: [email protected] (Jim Priebe)
Date: Wed Jan 14 20:38:53 2009
Subject: [General-discussion] winamp
Message-ID: <[email protected]>


Hi James,

I had repeated connection issues, and I was running the shoutcast and 
wma in parallel. The shoutcast did not have any problems but every few 
hours the wma had problems connecting, causing an interruption in the 
stream.

Jim

James Henline wrote:
> What sort of problems Jim?
>
> Also, 56k is roughly equal to AM, 96k is closer to FM and 128k would 
> be CD quality.
>
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> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jim Priebe 
> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Yes good point, our sources are above the target.
>
>     As for 128AAC I'm not sure internet infrastructure will allow a
>     constant & reliable stream at this bandwidth, or am I out to lunch
>     here? (I don't mean my particular setup, I mean everything between
>     the source and the listener).
>
>     Also, our comparison is the FM signal. My understanding is that
>     56kps produces higher-than-fm quality.
>
>     Jim
>
>
>     Steve Kunitzer wrote:
>
>         If that's the case then broadcast in 128kbps AAC or 320kbps
>         MP3; definitely not 56kbps of any format.
>         Make sure to use sources encoded at or above the target bitrate.
>
>         Steve Kunitzer
>         http://www.festerhead.com
>
>
>
>         Jim Priebe wrote:
>
>             Yes, by-and-large I agree, but in this case on of our
>             "listeners" will be a local cable company who will be
>             distributing our signal. As a result, I want the highest
>             possible quality.
>
>             Jim
>
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From [email protected]  Wed Jan 14 21:09:25 2009
From: [email protected] (James Henline)
Date: Wed Jan 14 22:34:29 2009
Subject: [General-discussion] winamp
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References: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hmm, what were the bitrates of these two streams, and what is your
nominal outgoing bandwidth.

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Jim Priebe
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
> I had repeated connection issues, and I was running the shoutcast and wma in
> parallel. The shoutcast did not have any problems but every few hours the
> wma had problems connecting, causing an interruption in the stream.
>
> Jim
>
> James Henline wrote:
>>
>> What sort of problems Jim?
>>
>> Also, 56k is roughly equal to AM, 96k is closer to FM and 128k would be CD
>> quality.
>>
>> James Henline.
>> Help Desk Manager
>> Development Manager
>> Spacial Audio Solutions LLC.
>> 972-739-6420 ext: 110
>> www.audiorealm.com <http://www.audiorealm.com>
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>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jim Priebe
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>    Yes good point, our sources are above the target.
>>
>>    As for 128AAC I'm not sure internet infrastructure will allow a
>>    constant & reliable stream at this bandwidth, or am I out to lunch
>>    here? (I don't mean my particular setup, I mean everything between
>>    the source and the listener).
>>
>>    Also, our comparison is the FM signal. My understanding is that
>>    56kps produces higher-than-fm quality.
>>
>>    Jim
>>
>>
>>    Steve Kunitzer wrote:
>>
>>        If that's the case then broadcast in 128kbps AAC or 320kbps
>>        MP3; definitely not 56kbps of any format.
>>        Make sure to use sources encoded at or above the target bitrate.
>>
>>        Steve Kunitzer
>>        http://www.festerhead.com
>>
>>
>>
>>        Jim Priebe wrote:
>>
>>            Yes, by-and-large I agree, but in this case on of our
>>            "listeners" will be a local cable company who will be
>>            distributing our signal. As a result, I want the highest
>>            possible quality.
>>
>>            Jim
>>
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From [email protected]  Wed Jan 14 22:14:24 2009
From: [email protected] (Nature's Pace Sanctuary)
Date: Wed Jan 14 23:39:57 2009
Subject: [General-discussion] winamp
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <018d01c976bf$6eb33840$e26a4...@powerhouse>


At KWBC.fm we are also experiencing drop outs and having to restart our 20
and 48K streams sever time a day.  This wreaks havoc with our audience and
we are currently ranked #7 in country and try to put out a quality station.

I tried to submit a help ticket but it was rejected by the AudioRealm
Server.

I wonder if we would have the same issues with shoutcast?

Herman Beck


--------------------------


Hmm, what were the bitrates of these two streams, and what is your
nominal outgoing bandwidth.

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Jim Priebe
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
> I had repeated connection issues, and I was running the shoutcast and wma
in
> parallel. The shoutcast did not have any problems but every few hours the
> wma had problems connecting, causing an interruption in the stream.
>
> Jim
>
> James Henline wrote:
>>
>> What sort of problems Jim?
>>
>> Also, 56k is roughly equal to AM, 96k is closer to FM and 128k would be
CD
>> quality.
>>
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