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On Monday 16 June 2003 12:49 pm, will hill wrote:

> That is great.  It cuts down on my nosy cable neighbor's ability to read =
my
> mail.

Your noisy neighbor can't read your mail now.  (1)

> Let's suppose my mail program has this and I am the relay and I support
> this and my destination has a mail server that supports this.  Does that
> not give me transparent encryption all the way through?  Shouldn't we
> encourage this?  Now that Cox forces me to use their mail server, can't
> they keep this from happening?

If they happen to be one of the rare mail servers that supports TLS, then n=
o.

> uses unless it's privacy is secure.  Privacy can only be secured if
> everything is encrypted.  We should expect this to happen and work to make
> it so.

TLS does NOT get you there. If you want email privacy, you MUST use somethi=
ng=20
like GPG.  TLS is not good enough and does not solve this problem for email=
=2E =20


(1) People still believe that cable is shared as if you are connected to on=
e=20
big ethernet hub.  This is not true.  it is much more like an ethernet swit=
ch=20
under DOCSIS and you are quite isolated.  This is still susceptible to=20
arp-cache poisoning techniques but these are not available to the casual=20
user.  I know this because I formerly built and adminned cable systems.  I =
do=20
not advise that you arp-cache poison or turn your internet facing NIC=20
promiscuous unless you've got permission from your ISP. (you won't get it ;=
)=20
)  Google has the answers.

=2D-=20
Scott Harney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"...and one script to rule them all."
gpg key fingerprint=3D7125 0BD3 8EC4 08D7 321D CEE9 F024 7DA6 0BC7 94E5

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