This is all well and good, but I think I am going to start running Sun's Java Desktop (FKA "mad hatter") which is based on SuSE. Sun has excellent support, etc. Also, I can get it for $50 a pop whereas RedHat wants >$500 for their enterprise desktop offerings.
Shannon Tim Fournet wrote: >There are a few differences to take note of. First, the Red Hat Linux >product is now being called Fedora. A little history: The Fedora Project >came about in 2002 by a group originating with Warren Togami of the >University of Hawaii. Its goal was to come up with a repository of 3rd >party RPMs, all with a standard format to ensure quality and >compatibility. Over the past several months, Collaboration between Red >Hat, Inc and the Fedora Project got closer to the point of Fedora and >other community being able to make substantial contributions to Red Hat >Linux. At this same time, RH has been rolling out new versions of its >Enterprise Linux line, which has release cycles of 12-18 months and >Product Lifetimes from 3-5 years. Then it became apparent that it's not >cost-effective to support both an Enterprise Linux line and a free >community line all by themselves. > >So, what we have now is somewhat of a fork of Red Hat Linux. The >enterprise line gets a long release cycle with a long maintenance >period. Fedora Linux is the community branch. It still gets RH's >developers' time, but the community now has a much more direct >involvement in the development of the distribution. It's the >bleeding-edge side of Red Hat, and the developments that happen in >Fedora Core can eventually be moved up into new versions of the RHEL >products. > >Fedora's aim is to release 2-3 full releases every year. Unfortunately >this means that there's no company that will guarantee updates to older >versions for any period of time past new versions. That pretty much >makes it a bad choice for production machines, in which case one would >look to the RHEL line. However, there's a side project of Fedora, the >Fedora Legacy project (http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraLegacy) that aims >to provide security and bugfix updates to old releases for several >years. For anyone needing true commercial support, I really recommend >Red Hat Enterprise Server. Pricing starts at $349 a year, which includes >all updates, free downloads, and the RHN subscription. For hobbyists, >Fedora is a great thing to use. You just need to be willing and able to >upgrade a couple times a year. > >Red Hat has no intention of abandoning the desktop. Some people were up >in arms about a recent article where a RH exec was quoted as saying that >Linux is not ready for the desktop. All he was saying was that for a >non-techie home user, we're not there yet. I think most of you can agree >with that at least in part. They _do_ have an Enterprise Workstation >product, with price starting at $179, and a large portion of their >research and development is spent on making the desktop more friendly >and usable. > >So, where did I get all this info? Most of it is on www.redhat.com and >http://fedora.redhat.com. A lot of it has come from conversations with >members of the Fedora Project and from Red Hat developers, who I have >conversed with for years on IRC (irc.freenode.net, channels #redhat, >#fedora, #fedora-devel, #rhel). A lot of the developers and managers >actually participate in the channel there, and can answer questions >about Red Hat and Fedora development. > >On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 15:26, carson bankston wrote: > > >>OK, I feel like most of this is because of my >>comments. Hopefully, I just misunderstood what >>RH was doing. If they've done nothing but rename >>their desktop edition to Fedora, then why is this >>news? >> >>Lastly, I'm not upset at RH wanting to make >>money. That's what made me like them in the >>first place. It was just my understanding that >>they were abondoning the desktop. >> >>carson >> >> >> >>--- -ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>They didn't even drop the freebie distro, just >>>renamed it to Fedora. They >>>just weren't making money selling support and >>>boxed copies of it, so why >>>bother. I think they'll still "support" Fedora >>>in much the same way AOL >>>used to support Mozilla, and Sun supports >>>OpenOffice. >>> >>>ray >>> >>> >>>On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Dustin Puryear wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Does everyone realize that Red Hat >>>> >>>> >>>Enterprise, the business version, is >>> >>> >>>>still around and kicking? Red Hat only >>>> >>>> >>>dropped their freebie desktop >>> >>> >>>>distribution. >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "carson bankston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 1:47 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Red Hat's Dead, >>>> >>>> >>>But Linux Lives On >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Really disappointed. I've been tinkering >>>>> >>>>> >>>with RH >>> >>> >>>>>for about two years and even implemented a >>>>> >>>>> >>>RH >>> >>> >>>>>server with Squid. 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