The Red Hat Enterprise Workstation is $179. Educational institutions get a discount on top of that
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 19:59, Shannon B. Roddy wrote: > This is all well and good, but I think I am going to start running Sun's > Java Desktop (FKA "mad hatter") which is based on SuSE. Sun has > excellent support, etc. Also, I can get it for $50 a pop whereas RedHat > wants >$500 for their enterprise desktop offerings. > > Shannon > > Tim Fournet wrote: > > >There are a few differences to take note of. First, the Red Hat Linux > >product is now being called Fedora. A little history: The Fedora Project > >came about in 2002 by a group originating with Warren Togami of the > >University of Hawaii. Its goal was to come up with a repository of 3rd > >party RPMs, all with a standard format to ensure quality and > >compatibility. Over the past several months, Collaboration between Red > >Hat, Inc and the Fedora Project got closer to the point of Fedora and > >other community being able to make substantial contributions to Red Hat > >Linux. At this same time, RH has been rolling out new versions of its > >Enterprise Linux line, which has release cycles of 12-18 months and > >Product Lifetimes from 3-5 years. Then it became apparent that it's not > >cost-effective to support both an Enterprise Linux line and a free > >community line all by themselves. > > > >So, what we have now is somewhat of a fork of Red Hat Linux. The > >enterprise line gets a long release cycle with a long maintenance > >period. Fedora Linux is the community branch. It still gets RH's > >developers' time, but the community now has a much more direct > >involvement in the development of the distribution. It's the > >bleeding-edge side of Red Hat, and the developments that happen in > >Fedora Core can eventually be moved up into new versions of the RHEL > >products. > > > >Fedora's aim is to release 2-3 full releases every year. Unfortunately > >this means that there's no company that will guarantee updates to older > >versions for any period of time past new versions. That pretty much > >makes it a bad choice for production machines, in which case one would > >look to the RHEL line. However, there's a side project of Fedora, the > >Fedora Legacy project (http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraLegacy) that aims > >to provide security and bugfix updates to old releases for several > >years. For anyone needing true commercial support, I really recommend > >Red Hat Enterprise Server. Pricing starts at $349 a year, which includes > >all updates, free downloads, and the RHN subscription. For hobbyists, > >Fedora is a great thing to use. You just need to be willing and able to > >upgrade a couple times a year. > > > >Red Hat has no intention of abandoning the desktop. Some people were up > >in arms about a recent article where a RH exec was quoted as saying that > >Linux is not ready for the desktop. All he was saying was that for a > >non-techie home user, we're not there yet. I think most of you can agree > >with that at least in part. They _do_ have an Enterprise Workstation > >product, with price starting at $179, and a large portion of their > >research and development is spent on making the desktop more friendly > >and usable. > > > >So, where did I get all this info? Most of it is on www.redhat.com and > >http://fedora.redhat.com. A lot of it has come from conversations with > >members of the Fedora Project and from Red Hat developers, who I have > >conversed with for years on IRC (irc.freenode.net, channels #redhat, > >#fedora, #fedora-devel, #rhel). A lot of the developers and managers > >actually participate in the channel there, and can answer questions > >about Red Hat and Fedora development. > > > >On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 15:26, carson bankston wrote: > > > > > >>OK, I feel like most of this is because of my > >>comments. Hopefully, I just misunderstood what > >>RH was doing. If they've done nothing but rename > >>their desktop edition to Fedora, then why is this > >>news? > >> > >>Lastly, I'm not upset at RH wanting to make > >>money. That's what made me like them in the > >>first place. It was just my understanding that > >>they were abondoning the desktop. > >> > >>carson > >> > >> > >> > >>--- -ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>They didn't even drop the freebie distro, just > >>>renamed it to Fedora. They > >>>just weren't making money selling support and > >>>boxed copies of it, so why > >>>bother. I think they'll still "support" Fedora > >>>in much the same way AOL > >>>used to support Mozilla, and Sun supports > >>>OpenOffice. > >>> > >>>ray > >>> > >>> > >>>On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Does everyone realize that Red Hat > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Enterprise, the business version, is > >>> > >>> > >>>>still around and kicking? Red Hat only > >>>> > >>>> > >>>dropped their freebie desktop > >>> > >>> > >>>>distribution. > >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "carson bankston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>To: <[email protected]> > >>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 1:47 PM > >>>>Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Red Hat's Dead, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>But Linux Lives On > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Really disappointed. I've been tinkering > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>with RH > >>> > >>> > >>>>>for about two years and even implemented a > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>RH > >>> > >>> > >>>>>server with Squid. Decided it was cool and > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>even > >>> > >>> > >>>>>shelled out some pretty serious dough to > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>take an > >>> > >>> > >>>>>official RH course in Dallas. 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