--- John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- will hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 2004.01.28 08:15 Shannon Roddy wrote:
> > > 
> > > Doesn't matter if I have any windows systems
> > running.  The virus spoofs 
> > > the sender's address.  So, if you are in
> someone's
> > address book, 
> > > chances are "you" are sending out copies of the
> > virus.
> > > 
> > 
> > That's not what I'm getting at.  I want to prove
> > that Microsoft is behind the attack.
> 
> That's not science, that's politics. Or religion,
> considering your zealotry. Have you even read the
> analysis on how this virus works?
> See:
> http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=mydoom
>
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
<Huge Snip?
> 
> Maybe you aren't aware of the huge numbers of emails
> being sent. I've read estimates of 1 out of 12
> emails
> sent during this worm infestation are MyDoom.

OK, then, given that current estimates have spam
running at 6 out of ten emails, then why isn't SPAM a
Microsoft plot?  Hmm.  Does Bill want you to have a
larger, er, ego?  Is mS trying to lower your mortgage
rates?

> Odds are
> some _will_ know each other, at least enough to
> propagate. I think the actual extent of the
> propagation shows that it is working.
> 
> > Practically, it
> > makes not sense.
> 
> Same thing I was thinking.
> 
> > I can think of only reasons a
> > virus would spoof A or B's address in mail sent
> off
> > my machine.
> 
> I'm afraid to ask.
> 
> > The first is that A or B are trusted
> > administrators, that would not hold true across a
> > person's address book.
> 
> ???
> 
> > The second is that the virus
> > writer wanted to embarrass A or B.
> 
> I really doubt that. Maximum propagation of a SCO
> DDOS
> attack is the intent.

Reason C.  If you get email from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], or diedie@@Imafreakingvirus.com
you probably will not open it.  Or, I wouldn't anyway.
 If I get one from John Hebert, I'll open it.  And if
it has an attachment that didn't translate, I just
might open that too.

That is the kicker though.  Would MS send you a manual
virus?  "Pleze to click you here to scruz up you boxen
mine fruend."

> 
> By the way, I heard a report on the radio today that
> a
> variant is now spreading that will attack Microsoft
> during the same time period as SCO. If what you are
> saying is true and Microsoft is propagating a DDOS
> attack against itself to make Linux users look like
> nasty hackers, either Bill Gates is an evil genius
> or
> a stupid idiot.
> 
> I hardly think the world will blame Linux for the
> actions of a few. Even SCO is not that stupid (note
> their $250K reward for turning in the virus writer).
> 
> > Either of these
> > options would require some kind of an external
> list
> > and great premeditation.  Your inclusion, as a
> Linux
> > Zealot is suspicious.  
> 
> Will, you really need to get out of the house more.
> 
> > Being a good zealot myself, I think that Microsoft
> > is behind this and wants to make free software
> users
> > look as bad as they can.
> 

We need help for this?  I thought we had enough
aluminium hat wearers to take care or image problem
ourselves.

> Please stop.
> 
> > They have lists of their
> > "enemies" who advocate free software and
> > occasionally complain when Microsoft failures and
> > design flaws cause internet turmoil, restrictive
> ISP
> > policies, and utility blackouts.
> 
> Waitasec. You're kidding. Right? This is funny.

So, are the execs getting uzis and gas masks with
their stock options, or is it cyanide pills with the
keys to the executive washroom?
> 
> > They have already
> > suckered CNN and others to run headlines about
> > "Linux War Weapons", and others have run articles
> > filled with giggling anarchist straw men.
> 
> Now I get it! That's pretty funny... I really hope
> you're kidding.
> 
> > A
> > miltibillion dollar press just used the latest
> > Microsoft transmitted disease to smear people who
> > give their work away without expectations of
> reward.
> 
They're after the priests and red cross workers too! 
This must be stopped!

> If you are not kidding, then you are one spooky
> dude.
> 
> >  It's disgusting, but hopefully transparent enough
> > to backfire.  
> 
> Please keep at least 100' away from me in the
> future.
> 
> > So, is it true?  Shannon, were your machines
> clean? 
> > Has anyone else here been smeared by spoofing?  Is
> > there enough mail lying around to build a solid
> > statistical case?
> 
> Wow. I'm not sure how to respond to that. I've run
> out

Dang it John, I told you to keep you aluminium hat on,
now the rays got you man.

> 
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=====
Warmest Regards,

Doug Riddle
Capital punishment makes the state a murderer. On the other hand, life in 
prison makes the state a gay dungeon master.  -- Rev. Jesse Jackson
"Decisions, Decisions, Decisions..." - Doug Riddle

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