On Jan 29, 2004, at 7:55 AM, will hill wrote:

> On 2004.01.29 00:39 John Hebert wrote:
>
>>
>> That's not science, that's politics. Or religion,
>> considering your zealotry. Have you even read the
>> analysis on how this virus works?
>> See:
>> http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=mydoom
>> http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/ 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>
> Yes, I've read about this typical Microsoft transmitted disease.  If  
> you had read my post before smarting off with questions that I  
> answered, you might have understood what I was saying instead of  
> judging it wrong because it does not match your own preconceived  
> notions.
>
> I am a scientist and I want to make a statistical case.  I don't have  
> the means at my disposal because I don't' administer a mail server.   
> It would be easy enough to do if you had a few thousand messages  
> sitting around.

You can feel free to rifle through my mail server logs under some sort  
of an NDA.  Would have to see about that.  Don't think you will find  
anything except for randomness though.  Problem is that the mail server  
logs are NOT what you want since that only tells half (less?) of the  
story.  You would need to inspect the address books of all of the  
source machines, etc.

Anyway, I must have gone to sleep a couple days ago and woke up in a  
parallel universe if M$ is sending out viruses now.  I know they are  
greedy, no good, arrogant pieces of shit, but come on dude, I don't  
think they would start using the weaknesses of their own operating  
system to make linux users look bad.  The only thing they get in the  
long run is a black eye and more people migrating away.

I can see an inkling of a possibility that their OS had something to do  
with the north east power outages, but this!?  I still think that they  
paid the right people to not make a big issue out of the monitoring  
systems being down.  But this is totally different.  We all know that  
Winblows is a crappy OS, but I think releasing viruses intentionally is  
beneath even them.

I think the contest for zealotry is over now, please return to your  
regularly scheduled mailing list.  :-)

Shannon

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