Many of the addresses were spoofed with just some guess [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got tons of them for addresses that do not exist on my domain. I know about that because on my domain name, I have it set so that I get messages to nonexistent users. They were all firstnames like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 21:20, will hill wrote: > On 2004.01.29 13:20 Shannon Roddy wrote: > > > You can feel free to rifle through my mail server logs under some sort > > of an NDA. Would have to see about that. Don't think you will find > > anything except for randomness though. Problem is that the mail server > > logs are NOT what you want since that only tells half (less?) of the > > story. You would need to inspect the address books of all of the > > source machines, etc. > > > > Anyway, I must have gone to sleep a couple days ago and woke up in a > > parallel universe if M$ is sending out viruses now. I know they are > > greedy, no good, arrogant pieces of shit, but come on dude, I don't > > think they would start using the weaknesses of their own operating > > system to make linux users look bad. The only thing they get in the > > long run is a black eye and more people migrating away. > > > > I can see an inkling of a possibility that their OS had something to do > > with the north east power outages, but this!? I still think that they > > paid the right people to not make a big issue out of the monitoring > > systems being down. But this is totally different. We all know that > > Winblows is a crappy OS, but I think releasing viruses intentionally is > > beneath even them. > > > > I think the contest for zealotry is over now, please return to your > > regularly scheduled mailing list. :-) > > > > Shannon > > > > Thanks, I'd like to do that. The story will tell itself as we look. The > behavior I'm looking for is a machine that does not have your address > anywhere on it spoofing you. If you can show that just once, some kind of > co-operation of this virus with itself or a central server will be > established. A preference for your address in spoofing might be explained by > the prevalence of your address in address books and it would be interesting > to show a correlation. I'll sign an appropriate NDA to have the chance to > look things over. > > You have not fallen into a parallel universe, Microsoft breaks their own > software and blames it on others routinely. Viruses can be seen as part of > the upgrade cycle, just like DLL hell. The company that blamed Sun for the > death of Windows 98 would be happy to blame Linux "hackers" for the demise of > 98. Do you remember the way they killed DrDOS > (http://www.kickassgear.com/Articles/Microsoft.htm) OS/2 > (http://www.infoanarchy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/10/23/17629/221) Lotus, > Netscape, Word Perfect .... freaking everything on their platform > (http://www.kmfms.com/whatsbad.html)? You would think that each of those > breaks would give Microsoft a black eye, but they managed to blame their > competition in every case! Free software is a little harder for them to > kill, but the basics are the same, FUD, break, malign. You can count of > Microsoft to get up to their old tricks and make free software on their own > platform look bad, that's SOP for them. What's different with free software > is that anyone can use it without outside of Microsoft's control. The best > way for them to keep people from going there, they can try to malign free > software users. Microsoft is funding SCO's attempt to steal all free > software and malign all free software users as thieves. Their own polls > showed that the rhetoric backfired on them when they used it themselves. > Using a surrogate is a traditional part of Microsoft's strategy as well. > Microsoft does not extort millions of dollars from public school systems, the > BSA does, right? It's possible that this virus was written by a spamming > outfit, but the press blamed it on free software zealots > (http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/01/27/mydoom.spread/) > (http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/27/technology/techinvestor/lamonica/index.htm?cnn). > Those have got to be the best headlines and stories that a few billion > dollars of advertising can buy, "Ask the experts at Sophos" Given > Microsoft's past their authoring this and other worms would not surprise me > at all. Doing so and blaming it on their latest competitive threat would be > par performance. > > If they do it enough, they will create a crisis vehicle to get some really > nasty legislation passed. All Joe sixpacks can see is that his email and > internet are broken and CNN just told him it was Linux's fault. Someone at > Bits Technical actually told me that the worm was "written in Linux". I can > imagine Sir Gates riding to the rescue and it's not pretty. > > Oh yeah, I do think Microsoft and other ISPs spam each other. They may do it > through surrogates, but I think they do it. I just can't believe that there > are so many penis enlarger and viagra scam companies out there. While > running a spam server might be profitable and there may be thousands of want > to be profitable money losers, where does the money come from in the first > place? Are there really billions of dollars worth of penis enlargers to pay > for all this filthy spam? Why should we believe that a scofflaw company > known to break competitors software is above spamming a competing ISP? Once > again, the big ISPs are in the best position to gain from legislated > solutions the spam problem. > > Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. Those who do know > history are doomed to know that they are repeating history and it makes them > irritable. It's almost as bad as having to use Windoze at work. > > Though this be madness, yet there is method in it. > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
