>From the checking I've done, it looks like SIP proxies are pretty
commonly available now. It may not all be consistent, though. I see that
some of our embedded firewall devices do something called "SIP
Transformations"

On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 14:40, -ray wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Tim Fournet wrote:
> 
> > and long distance. Only downside to Packet8 is that they don't support
> > devices other than their own, so you can't plug in your own SIP phone or
> > soft-phone into their network.. Hopefully that'll change at some point.
> 
> That is because they are using proprietary extensions to the SIP protocol
> to allow NAT traversal.  Vonage and FWD do this also.  Standard SIP embeds
> IP addresses in the data portion of the packet, so NAT breaks it.  There
> are workarounds, but no standard (that i know of) for SIP and NAT to play
> nice.  I don't think you'll be able to buy your own phone until the
> limitations in SIP are fixed.
> 
> ray
> 
> 
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