KDE and Gnome are much more than window managers, they are entire
desktop environments.  Even the barest install of X contains TWM,
doesn't it?

I thought XOrg 6.8+ and XFree86 claim to be freely redistributable
open-source software?

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:14:54 -0600, Will Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dustin Carlino is exploring the wide world of svga libraries and programs.  He
> says they are quick but require direct hardware access and must be run as
> root.  They also lack network awareness.
> 
> You also know about qtopia on Zaurus.  X was only recently ported to palmtops.
> I've been meaning to ask you which multi-auth package I should use for Opie.
> 
> It might be that there are no replacements for X because X works.  I have a
> feeling that adding users, networking, clipboards and other goodies to
> libsvga would produce something much like X.
> 
> X can't be that hard to work with.  Look at all the programs that come with X
> and at window managers like fluxbox.  I don't know, though, the only
> programming like that I've ever done was with the win95 API, which was easy.
> KDE and Gnome do exist and I'm much more willing to learn them than I was the
> MFC.
> 
> I'm too fat dumb and happy with KDE to worry.
> 
> On Tuesday 18 January 2005 08:07 pm, John Hebert wrote:
> >The reason why KDE and Gnome exist is because X is a pain to write apps
> > for.  And there aren't any free|open source
> > replacements for X that I know of. Do you? Why?
> 
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