One of the coolest security implementation I have noticed in windows is
when you are running as admin and you attempt to do a particular task,
it prompts the nice popup:

"You do not have enough privileges ..."

If the admin does not, I wonder who?

That is security at work, prevent the admin from doing something wrong.
I love Microsoft. The best! Open BSD should learn from them.

Another cool feature probably for security reasons is when you try to
access or open a file, it has this wonderful function call that checks
for the Floppy drive; it makes a cool sound too. This is just in case
you triy to access some malicious code that has not been audited by the
security policies, nothing can get by that; the process is quite slow
due to the response time of the hardware; therefore, this delay could
not possibly be because of odd algorithm design.

Alvaro Zuniga

On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 11:04, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> Actually, NTFS provides better and more robust access control than most 
> Linux filesystems. As you note though many Windows programs must run with 
> privileges high enough that Windows doesn't really benefit from the real 
> power of NTFS.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Will Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:49 AM
> Subject: [brlug-general] Re: limitations of x86 = Windows insecurity?
> 
> 
> > Is it the hardware or the way it's used?  What fundamental differences are
> > there between the Microsoft way and OpenBSD or Debian?  Has Microsoft
> > implemented basic precautions such as PIDs tracked by the kernel, users, 
> > and
> > root accounts?  The last time I checked, processes could still hide, 
> > Outlook
> > and other processes had to run as root to work and file permissions were
> > based on some kind of table system rather than inherent in the file 
> > system.
> > It's possible Microsoft has leapt over these old problems, but I doubt 
> > they
> > can ever do as well as they should and still give Holywood DRM.
> >
> > On Wednesday 26 January 2005 10:21 pm, Andrew Baudouin wrote:
> >> They have made leaps and strides when it comes to security recently.
> >> ... if the x86 architecture were not as insecure as it is, Windows 
> >> wouldn't
> >> look half as bad, but the blame can certainly be evenly placed on both
> >> sides of the equation.
> >
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