I see a hint of sarcasm here. You have to look hard to see it, but it's 
there.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alvaro Zuniga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Re: limitations of x86 = Windows insecurity?


> One of the coolest security implementation I have noticed in windows is
> when you are running as admin and you attempt to do a particular task,
> it prompts the nice popup:
>
> "You do not have enough privileges ..."
>
> If the admin does not, I wonder who?
>
> That is security at work, prevent the admin from doing something wrong.
> I love Microsoft. The best! Open BSD should learn from them.
>
> Another cool feature probably for security reasons is when you try to
> access or open a file, it has this wonderful function call that checks
> for the Floppy drive; it makes a cool sound too. This is just in case
> you triy to access some malicious code that has not been audited by the
> security policies, nothing can get by that; the process is quite slow
> due to the response time of the hardware; therefore, this delay could
> not possibly be because of odd algorithm design.
>
> Alvaro Zuniga
>
> On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 11:04, Dustin Puryear wrote:
>> Actually, NTFS provides better and more robust access control than most
>> Linux filesystems. As you note though many Windows programs must run with
>> privileges high enough that Windows doesn't really benefit from the real
>> power of NTFS.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Will Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:49 AM
>> Subject: [brlug-general] Re: limitations of x86 = Windows insecurity?
>>
>>
>> > Is it the hardware or the way it's used?  What fundamental differences 
>> > are
>> > there between the Microsoft way and OpenBSD or Debian?  Has Microsoft
>> > implemented basic precautions such as PIDs tracked by the kernel, 
>> > users,
>> > and
>> > root accounts?  The last time I checked, processes could still hide,
>> > Outlook
>> > and other processes had to run as root to work and file permissions 
>> > were
>> > based on some kind of table system rather than inherent in the file
>> > system.
>> > It's possible Microsoft has leapt over these old problems, but I doubt
>> > they
>> > can ever do as well as they should and still give Holywood DRM.
>> >
>> > On Wednesday 26 January 2005 10:21 pm, Andrew Baudouin wrote:
>> >> They have made leaps and strides when it comes to security recently.
>> >> ... if the x86 architecture were not as insecure as it is, Windows
>> >> wouldn't
>> >> look half as bad, but the blame can certainly be evenly placed on both
>> >> sides of the equation.
>> >
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