So,
I thought I would just submit a patch to Velocity to fix the velocity/log4j problem and everything would be fine. Wrong.. The issue is the non backwards compatible API change to log4j. And, I saw Niclas email about it as well.
So, I dug some more and according to this email: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2004-11/msg00271.html
there is a binary version. So I thought "hey, use that".. Only to discover that Gump can check out a tagged branch of code! And that there is a project called logging-log4j-12.xml already building that most dependees of log4j use.
So, I made the change, and that should fix Velocity... Of course, it basically is like dynamically building a package.. Fulcrum Configuration relies on the older version of commons-configuration. I am going to apply the same trick there.
I have spoken to Geir Magnuson, who was not aware that velocity was being a problem and I indicated the problem and he said he would solve it in a few minutes.
People, Gump is *NOT* about 100% success.
Gump is about establishing communication channels between development communities.
If you are interested in the first and not in the second, run a cron job every night on your build files and send your list an email if that build goes wrong. it's a two seconds job and I'll be happy to give access to brutus if you need that.
On the other hand, if you are interested in creating a social engineering support tool and you are willing to get your hands dirty in python and prepare to have a huge ton of patience to convert a few hundreds people to a very difficult concept, then stick around for a few more years, because that's how much it will take before gump can be considered a success.
The recent 'velocity stall' indicates that our way to signal problems is too noisy to convey information and Eric identified a few issues that I also have.
The rule should be to start fixing gump and fix the communication channels rather than fixing the metadata to route around the problems.
-- Stefano.
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