On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Or it might 'work', but some might feel that this large, > diffuse, group, operating by majority rules is either inconsistent with > Apache policy or a bad example for the podlings. Thats more how i see it. Using consensus instead of majority votes is one of the main things that makes the ASF special, so we should avoid changing from that if we can, for both those reasons you suggest. And there is nothing that needs this changed presently so IMHO its not necessary to change anything. > I'd like to see us find more > incremental changes that help further Ok, i propose we have an "experiment" [1] where we try having a mentor or two who are not PMC members. Have some other experienced mentors helping to make sure nothing unfixable can go wrong, and just see how it goes for a while, reporting each month with the status. Maybe it will fail and we'll know not to try that again, but i think and hope it should work ok. If it does work ok then changing to make this more common would avoid a lot of the times were we need to make new not well known people PMC members or have these debates, which solves part of the problem here. If that works then there are some further small incremental changes we can make which will also help with reasons for people needing to join the PMC, and those will help with the PMC size and disparity issues. Wouldn't a small experiment like this be worth trying before we drop something as fundamental as using consensus? ...ant [1] We tried a similar "experiment" with the change back to allow poddlings to vote for their own committers again which was similarly controversial before it was tried - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201008.mbox/%3C974721.3581.qm%40web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com%3E --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
