On 12/18/2014 11:16 AM, Marko Rodriguez wrote:
Hello Jake,

When talking with Sam Ruby (cc:d) we voiced our concerns about moving
all of our infrastructure over to The Apache Foundation. In particular,
our GitHub presence and our public user-mailing list (i.e. tech support
mailing list). I have articulated our concerns in the freshly updated
proposal.

https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPopProposal
Please see "W. Mailing Lists", "Y. Git Repository", and "X. Subversion
Directory".

Sam Ruby had stated that using GitHub for source control is an accepted
practice now.

Let's split that into two pieces.

Git is a DVCS, which means that it can be at multiple places. Using git for source control is an accepted practice at the ASF now. GitHub can be one of the places.

From the ASF perspective, GitHub is a mirror. From GitHub's perspective, the ASF is a mirror.

None of this means that you can't use pull requests.  Examples:

https://github.com/apache/spark/pulls
https://github.com/deltacloud/deltacloud-core/pulls
https://github.com/apache/camel/pulls

(These just happen to be the top three hits on a Google search for "apache github pull requests").

We can (though would prefer not to) move our issue
tracking to JIRA. Again, we have all been using GitHub issue tracking
for 5 years and are comfortable with its interface. Likewise, we can
(though would prefer not to), move our user mailing list to Apache's
mail list system. If a distinction is made between "user mailing list"
(tech support) and "contributor mailing list" (governance), we can (and
would prefer) to move over our "TinkerPop Contributors" mailing list to
ASF as this is where all the legal/political/governance discussion occur
and should be under the purview of ASF.

The current tinkerpop mailing lists are indeed quite active. I believe it would be possible for an ASF mailing list to be subscribed to each of these and satisfy ASF requirements in this manner.

Thoughts?,
Marko.

- Sam Ruby

http://markorodriguez.com

On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Jake Farrell <jfarr...@apache.org
<mailto:jfarr...@apache.org>> wrote:

Hey Marko
Thank you for posting the proposal to the wiki. The proposal has the
requested infra for issues, wiki, mailing lists, and scm all still at
github. These sections will have to be edited to bring everything over to
ASF hardware. Please take a look at other proposals listed for an idea and
if you have any questions please let us know

Thanks
-Jake

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com
<mailto:okramma...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hello everyone,

I have put the proposal on the wiki page.

https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPopProposal

As requested by Roman, I updated the Affiliations section. Note that I
would love to tweak more but there is a 1 minute turn around time when I
hit 'preview' or 'save changes' on the wiki. It started driving me
mad so I
stopped.

Please advise on desired edits and I will do so. Moreover, I will make
things much cleaner once the wiki interface speeds up (hopefully its
just a
'burp' in the software right now).

Finally, I will review the individuals who noted they would like to
"champion" or "mentor" TinkerPop. I will read more about them, what these
roles are, and provide thoughts to this thread once I fully grasp the
situation.

Thank you again,
Marko.

http://markorodriguez.com

On Dec 17, 2014, at 5:25 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

No way, Marko! This is AWESOME!!

As many people had mentioned before, you need Champion who is Apache
member and mentors who are member of Incubator PMCs.

And please do follow the format of the proposal as Hadrian mentioned in
his reply.

So excited!

- Henry




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