Ross is correct.

Chris




On 9/29/16, 8:15 AM, "Ross Gardler" <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:

    OK, if Datastax are not objecting to the move then this is not a hostile 
fork. You should have your champion get clearance from legal@ for accepting 
this code under the open source license it is published under rather than under 
the SGA.
    
    Ross
    
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Ted Wilmes [mailto:twil...@gmail.com]
    > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:12 AM
    > To: general@incubator.apache.org; mbruk...@google.com
    > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Olympian Incubation Proposal
    > 
    > Hello Ross,
    > Per another one of the proposal submitters, Misha Brukman: "Datastax is 
not
    > against the move of Titan to ASF but has stated that they will neither 
support
    > or block it, as long as it doesn't involve them participating or signing 
the
    > software grant"  I've CC'ed him to get him onto this thread.
    > 
    > Thanks,
    > Ted
    > 
    > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com>
    > wrote:
    > 
    > > I see the GitHub code is untouched for over a year. Are Datastax
    > > objecting to the proposal or is it just that they are unwilling to
    > > actively supporting it?
    > >
    > > Ross
    > >
    > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:j...@nanthrax.net]
    > > > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:23 AM
    > > > To: general@incubator.apache.org
    > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Olympian Incubation Proposal
    > > >
    > > > Hi Susan,
    > > >
    > > > community interest is the key part for sure. But we would like to
    > > > avoid
    > > any
    > > > trouble about the grant agreement, etc.
    > > >
    > > > Just my $0.01
    > > >
    > > > Regards
    > > > JB
    > > >
    > > > On 09/29/2016 03:03 PM, Susan Malaika wrote:
    > > > > Hi JB
    > > > > Datastax know about the incubator effort. As far as I know they
    > > > > will
    > > not sign
    > > > the grant agreement. I was under the impression that the incubator
    > > proposal
    > > > can proceed after discussion if there is sufficient community 
interest.
    > > > > Susan Malaika
    > > > >
    > > > > -----Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: -----
    > > > > To: general@incubator.apache.org
    > > > > From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
    > > > > Date: 09/29/2016 08:43AM
    > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Olympian Incubation Proposal
    > > > >
    > > > > Hi Henry,
    > > > >
    > > > > Is DataStax know and agree with the fork ?
    > > > >
    > > > > Else, the Software Grant Agreement won't be possible and it won't
    > > > > be able to easy to head to graduation.
    > > > >
    > > > > Regards
    > > > > JB
    > > > >
    > > > > On 09/29/2016 06:01 AM, Henry Saputra wrote:
    > > > >> Hi All,
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Please find below a proposal for a new incubator podling, Apache
    > > > >> Olympian, formerly Titan.
    > > > >> Apache Olympian is software designed to support the processing of
    > > > >> graphs so large that they require storage and computational
    > > > >> capacities beyond what a single machine can provide.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> This project will be a fork of Titan graph database project (
    > > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
    > > > >> gith
    > > > >>
    > > >
    > ub.com%2Fthinkaurelius%2Ftitan%2F&data=01%7C01%7CRoss.Gardler%40mic
    > > >
    > rosoft.com%7Cbff6cec6c3514332c7ac08d3e87433d0%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab
    > > >
    > 2d7cd011db47%7C1&sdata=J9Ur0GJAXUuWr1pLwivOkykimmgPEoOK5kB1vDJlI
    > > > JM%3D&reserved=0) that already come with Apache License v2.0.
    > > > >> The project was created by company called Aurelius and was
    > > > >> acquired by Datstax.
    > > > >> Coming to 2016 there has been less activity in the project as the
    > > > >> original authors are busy with other software development, but
    > > > >> there is significant interest from the community (see
    > > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
    > > > >> grou
    > > > >>
    > > >
    > ps.google.com%2Fforum%2F%23!msg%2F&data=01%7C01%7CRoss.Gardler%4
    > > > 0micr
    > > > >>
    > > >
    > osoft.com%7Cbff6cec6c3514332c7ac08d3e87433d0%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab
    > > > 2d
    > > > >>
    > > >
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    > > > 3D&r
    > > > >> eserved=0
    > > > >> aureliusgraphs/jEN_7QwVXZ4/mz3gik-FAgAJ)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The community have tried to reaching out to Datastax to donate
    > > > >> the copyright and trademark of project to ASF but it was not 
approved.
    > > > >> Because of that, the community has decided to go to ASF with
    > > > >> different
    > > > >> name: Apache Olympian.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The wiki proposal page is located at this URL:
    > > > >>
    > > > >>
    > > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
    > > > >> wiki
    > > > >>
    > > >
    > .apache.org%2Fincubator%2FOlympianProposal&data=01%7C01%7CRoss.Gardl
    > > > e
    > > > >>
    > > >
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    > > > 41
    > > > >>
    > > >
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    > > > 2R7o
    > > > >> Ry0%3D&reserved=0
    > > > >>
    > > > >> I have also included the current text of that page below.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Looking forward of comments or questions about this proposal.
    > > > >>
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Thanks,
    > > > >> Henry Saputra
    > > > >> On behalf of Apache Olympian community
    > > > >>
    > > > >>
    > > > >> = Apache Olympian Proposal ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Abstract ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Olympian (formerly Titan) is software designed to support the
    > > > >> processing of graphs so large that they require storage and
    > > > >> computational capacities beyond what a single machine can provide.
    > > > >> Scaling graph data processing for real time traversals and
    > > > >> analytical
    > > queries
    > > > is Olympian’s main benefit.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Proposal ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Olympian consists of about 75K of Java code under the Apache 2
    > > > >> license
    > > > >>
    > > >
    > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww
    > > > .ap
    > > > ache.org%2Flicenses%2FLICENSE-
    > > >
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    > > > supports very large graphs, with many concurrent transactions and
    > > operational
    > > > graph processing.
    > > > >> Olympian graphs scale with the number of machines in the cluster.
    > > > >> Olympian already integrates with a number of Apache projects:
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    Provides native support for the popular property graph data 
model
    > > > >>    exposed by Apache TinkerPop
    > > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
    > > http%3A%2F%2Ftinkerpo
    > > >
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    > > > >.
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    Provides native support for the Gremlin graph traversal
    > > > >> language
    > > defined
    > > > >>    by Apache TinkerPop for programming language agnostic 
connectivity.
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    Provides graph persistence solutions with:
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>       Apache Cassandra
    > > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
    > > http%3A%2F%2Fcassandr
    > > >
    > a.apache.org%2F&data=01%7C01%7CRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7Cbff6c
    > > >
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    > > > ed=0>
    > > > >>       -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>       Apache HBase
    > > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
    > > https%3A%2F%2Fhbase.a
    > > >
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    > > > >>       -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    Provides advanced indexing with:
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>       Apache Lucene
    > > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flu
    > > > cene
    > > .
    > > >
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    > > > >>       -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>       Apache Solr
    > > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
    > > http%3A%2F%2Flucene.a
    > > >
    > pache.org%2Fsolr%2F&data=01%7C01%7CRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7C
    > > >
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    > > > ed=0>
    > > > >>       -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    Supports global graph analytics and batch graph processing
    > > > >> through the Apache
    > > > >>    Hadoop
    > > >
    > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhadoop.
    > > >
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    > > >
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    > > >
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    > > > 0> framework with processors implemented
    > > > >>    with:
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>       Apache Spark
    > > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
    > > http%3A%2F%2Fspark.ap
    > > >
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    > > > 0>
    > > > >>       -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>       Apache Giraph
    > > > >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F
    > > > >> gira
    > > > >>
    > > >
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    > > > >>
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    > > > >>
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Other software Olympian interfaces with includes:
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    BerkeleyDB
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    Elasticsearch
    > > > >>
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Background ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Marko Rodriguez and Matthias Broecheler, cofounders of the
    > > > >> Aurelius graph consulting firm, developed the Titan distributed
    > > > >> graph database system and made it available under the Apache 2 
license
    > in 2012.
    > > > >> Marko is also a cofounder of the Apache TinkerPop project and the
    > > > >> primary developer of the Gremlin graph traversal language. Other
    > > > >> developers of Titan include Dan LaRocque, Stephen Mallette,
    > > > >> Daniel Kuppitz, and Pavel Yaskevich. Datastax acquired Aurelius
    > > > >> in February 2015, prior to the Titan 1.0 release in September 2015.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Since Titan became available on GitHub, there have been 4434
    > > > >> commits,
    > > > >> 38 branches, 23 releases, and 35 contributors.  In 2016 there has
    > > > >> been less activity as the original authors are busy with other
    > > > >> software development, but there is significant interest from the
    > > > community.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Rationale ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> (1) There are a number of Apache projects that integrate with 
Titan.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> (2) Apache Atlas (incubating)
    > > > >>
    > > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
    > > http%3A%2F%2Fatlas.inc
    > > >
    > ubator.apache.org%2F&data=01%7C01%7CRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7C
    > > >
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    > > > 3D&reserved=0> packages and ships Titan as an essential component,
    > > > yet
    > > Titan
    > > > is not part of Apache.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> (3) There are a number of existing users of Titan who are keen to
    > > > >> continue to develop the code. These users provide the basis of
    > > > >> the community for the proposed project.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Initial Goals ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The initial goals are as follows:
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    Establish the project governance in The Apache Way and broaden 
the
    > > > >>    community.
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    Distribute an incubating release aligned with the latest Apache
    > > > >>    TinkerPop version and prepared in accordance with the Apache
    > > release
    > > > >>    process.
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    Improve the documentation.
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    Add more unit/scenario tests.
    > > > >>    -
    > > > >>
    > > > >>    Contribute functional and performance-related enhancements to
    > > > >> the
    > > > code.
    > > > >>
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Current Status ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The project will be forked off the existing Titan code base. This
    > > > >> code has been available under the Apache 2 License but has not
    > > > >> been subject to the Apache governance. The proposed project will
    > > > >> adhere to Apache’s governance and processes. This is one of the
    > > > >> key benefits and reasons for bringing the project forward as an
    > > > >> incubator
    > > candidate.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> There are 37 pull requests currently open against Titan, and the
    > > > >> last pull request was merged in June 2016. During incubation, the
    > > > >> community will adopt a voting-based approach to review and commit
    > > > >> those changes into the code base in preparation for the first
    > > incubating
    > > > release.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Meritocracy ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The proposed project will adopt the familiar process of
    > > > >> progression from submitter to contributor to PMC. The community
    > > > >> includes active committers and PMC members on other Apache
    > > > >> projects (e.g. Apache TinkerPop, Apache Atlas (incubating), Apache
    > HBase).
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Community ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> There is an active and passionate community of existing Titan 
users.
    > > > >> It is believed that this community will continue to grow and to
    > > > >> progress. Titan is well-designed to support different backends,
    > > > >> and the community will naturally grow as more backends are
    > > > >> written to fit into the Titan architecture. Since the Titan 1.0
    > > > >> release, 3 different storage providers have become available.
    > > > >> Also once an incubation release is made available, the community
    > > > >> will likely see quick adoption from the Apache TinkerPop user base.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Core Developers ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The community includes developers from a number of vendors (e.g.
    > > > >> Google, HortonWorks, IBM, Mindmaps, Classmethod) and users (both
    > > > >> academic and commercial). It contains two active committers and
    > > > >> PMC members from the Apache TinkerPop project, one active
    > > > >> committer and PPMC member from Apache Atlas (incubating), and one
    > > > >> committer from Apache HBase. The developers represent a good
    > > > >> mixture of skills, including expertise with each of the supported
    > providers.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Alignment ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The proposed project will be used by or integrated with a number
    > > > >> of other Apache components, including (probably) TinkerPop,
    > > > >> Atlas, Hadoop, Spark, Cassandra, and HBase. It is logical that
    > > > >> the project should also be homed within Apache and subject to the
    > > > >> governance
    > > > principles of Apache.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Known Risks ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Orphaned products ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> All the companies and developers associated with academic
    > > > >> institutions who are engaged or want to be engaged with Titan are
    > > > >> well aware of the open source philosophy and the importance of
    > > > >> open governance of open source products. Hence, we think the
    > > > >> risks of Titan
    > > > being orphaned are minimal.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Inexperience with Open Source ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The project is based on an existing open source code base (Titan
    > > > >> 1.0) and the community consists of developers and vendors who
    > > > >> have a history and strategy of open development and governance.
    > > > >> The initial committers include committers and PMC members from
    > > > >> other Apache
    > > > projects.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Homogenous Developers ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The community consists of geographically-dispersed volunteers
    > > > >> from academic and a range of commercial organisations. The
    > > > >> geographic diversity includes North America, Europe, Asia, and 
Australia.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Many of the developers are salaried by the vendors in the
    > > > >> community, but the vendors have publicly stated their support for
    > > > >> open systems and whilst we might expect to see some gradual
    > > > >> replacement of members of the community, we believe that it will
    > > > >> remain stable and viable into the future. All members of the
    > > > >> community are passionate about the project and are likely to
    > > > >> contribute outside of ‘normal working
    > > hours’.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Relationships with Other Apache Products ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The proposed project has dependencies on other Apache projects,
    > > > >> including Cassandra and HBase, for example. There are Apache
    > > > >> projects that depend upon the availability of an open, scalable
    > > > >> graph database. Apache Atlas is an example of such a project.
    > > > >> Apache S2Graph (incubating)
    > > > >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2
    > > > >> Fs2g
    > > > >>
    > > >
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    > > >
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    > > >
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    > > > reserved=0> is currently an incubator project at Apache, however it
    > > > does
    > > not
    > > > currently implement the Apache TinkerPop interfaces, although it has
    > > > an
    > > open
    > > > JIRA for that effort.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Whilst the Apache brand will help to attract developers and
    > > > >> consumers to the project, it is not for this reason that the
    > > > >> proposal is being made. It is to align the governance of the
    > > > >> project with that of the other components with which it is
    > > > >> commonly used and to benefit from the development principles
    > > > >> adopted by Apache. In particular, TinkerPop is Titan’s most
    > > > >> critical component/dependency, one so tight that Titan releases are
    > contemporaneous or follow TinkerPop releases.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Documentation ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Information on the existing Titan code base can be found at:
    > > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ft
    > > > >> itan
    > > > >>
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    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Initial Source ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The initial source will be based off a fork of the Titan code base.
    > > > >> The latter can be found at:
    > > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
    > > > >> gith
    > > > >>
    > > >
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    > > > >> erved=0. The fork to be used as the base is from:
    > > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
    > > > >> gith
    > > > >>
    > > >
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    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Since Datastax owns the copyright and trademark for Titan, when
    > > > >> the proposal is accepted to the ASF Incubator, the community will
    > > > >> choose a different name. It is proposed that Titan will enter
    > > > >> incubation with the name Olympian. The community will finalize
    > > > >> and document the name research during incubation. Individuals in
    > > > >> the community have discussed the possibility of a software grant
    > > > >> from Datastax, but Datastax was not interested in donating code or
    > brand to the ASF.
    > > > >> When asked if they would block others taking it to Apache they
    > > > >> did not
    > > > respond.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == External Dependencies ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Titan has the following external dependencies:
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Java 1.8
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Apache Maven 3.0.5 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * JUnit 4.12 (EPL)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * MRUnit 1.1.0 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Apache Cassandra (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Jamm (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Metrics 2.1.1 and 3.0.1 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Sesame 2.7.10 (Eclipse Public License Version 1.0)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * slf4j 1.7.5 (MIT)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Apache HTTPComponents 4.4.1 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Apache Hadoop 1.2.1 & 2.7.1 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Apache HBase (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Jackson 1.9.2 & 2.4.4 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Apache Lucene 4.10.4 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Elasticsearch 1.5.1 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Apache Commons Beanutils 1.7.0 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Joda Time 1.6.2 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Google ConcurrentLinkedHashMap (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Antlr 2.7.7 And 3.2 (BSD License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * ASM 3 & 4
    > > > >>
    > (https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fasm.
    > > > >>
    > > >
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    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Apache Zookeeper 3.4.6 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Jersey 1.9 (CDDL 1.1 and GPL v2)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * JNA 4.0.0 (LGPL 2.1 and Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Kuali Maven s3 Wagon 1.1.20 (Educational Community License,
    > > > >> Version
    > > > >> 2.0)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Apache Tomcat Jasper 5.5.23 (Apache 2.0 License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * Berkeley DB 5.0.73 (Sleepycat License)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Upon acceptance to the incubator, we would begin a thorough
    > > > >> analysis of all transitive dependencies to verify this
    > > > >> information and introduce license checking into the build and
    > > > >> release process by integrating with Apache Rat.  In the case
    > > > >> where a dependency has an Apache incompatible license, such as
    > > > >> Berkeley DB, we will remove or replace it with an appropriate
    > alternative.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Cryptography ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Titan will support encryption of client-server communication
    > > > >> through its use of the Apache TinkerPop Gremlin Server.  We do
    > > > >> not expect Titan to be a controlled export due to its use of 
encryption.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Required resources ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Mailing lists ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * priv...@olympian.incubator.apache.org  (with moderated
    > > > >> subscriptions)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * comm...@olympian.incubator.apache.org
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * d...@olympian.incubator.apache.org
    > > > >>
    > > > >> * u...@olympian.incubator.apache.org
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Git Repository ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The team would like to use git for source control. We request a
    > > > >> writable git repo
    > > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
    > > > >> git-
    > > > >> wip-us.apache.org%2Frepos%2Fasf%2Fincubator-
    > > > olympian.git&data=01%7C01
    > > > >>
    > > >
    > %7CRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7Cbff6cec6c3514332c7ac08d3e87433d0%
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    > > > >> and mirroring to be set up to GitHub through INFRA. We also
    > > > >> request configuration for continuous integration with Travis CI.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Issue Tracking ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Titan currently uses the GitHub issue tracker and the team would
    > > > >> like to migrate all of these issues to the Apache JIRA.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Initial Committers ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Dylan Bethune-Waddell - dylan.bethune.wadd...@mail.utoronto.ca
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Mathias Bogaert - mathias.boga...@gmail.com
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Misha Brukman - mbruk...@google.com
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Felix Chapman - fe...@mindmaps.io
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Sheldon Hall - shel...@mindmaps.io
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Jing Chen (Jerry) He - jerry...@apache.org
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Madhan Neethiraj - mneethi...@hortonworks.com
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Alexander Patrikalakis - a...@me.com
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Jason Plurad - plur...@apache.org
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Suma Shivaprasad - suma...@apache.org <sum...@apache.org>
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Lindsay Smith - lindsaysm...@google.com
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Filipe Teixeira - fppintoteixe...@gmail.com
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Ted Wilmes - twil...@apache.org
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Affiliations ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Dylan Bethune-Waddell - Jurisica Lab, Princess Margaret Cancer
    > > > >> Centre, UHN
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Mathias Bogaert - Independent Contractor
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Misha Brukman - Google
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Felix Chapman - Mindmaps
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Sheldon Hall - Mindmaps
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Jing Chen (Jerry) He - IBM
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Madhan Neethiraj - HortonWorks
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Alexander Patrikalakis - Classmethod, Inc.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Jason Plurad - IBM
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Suma Shivaprasad - HortonWorks
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Lindsay Smith - Google
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Filipe Teixeira - Mindmaps
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Ted Wilmes - Expero Inc.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> == Sponsors ==
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Champion ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Henry Saputra - hsapu...@apache.org
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Nominated Mentors ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Alan Gates - ga...@apache.org
    > > > >>
    > > > >> P. Taylor Goetz - ptgo...@apache.org
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Henry Saputra - hsapu...@apache.org
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Michael Stack - st...@apache.org
    > > > >>
    > > > >> === Sponsoring Entity ===
    > > > >>
    > > > >> The Apache Incubator
    > > > >>
    > > > >
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