Ah the other Jadon from Datastax. Sorry, somehow the thread did not line up properly.
On Thursday, September 29, 2016, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Which other thread are you referring to? > > On Thursday, September 29, 2016, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gst...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> -1 (binding) >> >> See other-thread from Jason at DataStax. This would be considered a >> hostile >> fork, and as Bertrand noted, the ASF does not want to accept such. >> >> On Sep 28, 2016 21:02, "Henry Saputra" <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi All, >> > >> > Please find below a proposal for a new incubator podling, Apache >> Olympian, >> > formerly Titan. >> > Apache Olympian is software designed to support the processing of >> graphs so >> > large that they require storage and computational capacities beyond >> what a >> > single machine can provide. >> > >> > This project will be a fork of Titan graph database project ( >> > https://github.com/thinkaurelius/titan/) that already come with Apache >> > License v2.0. >> > The project was created by company called Aurelius and was acquired by >> > Datstax. >> > Coming to 2016 there has been less activity in the project as the >> original >> > authors are busy with other software development, but there is >> significant >> > interest from the community (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/ >> > aureliusgraphs/jEN_7QwVXZ4/mz3gik-FAgAJ) >> > >> > The community have tried to reaching out to Datastax to donate the >> > copyright and trademark of project to ASF but it was not approved. >> > Because of that, the community has decided to go to ASF with different >> > name: Apache Olympian. >> > >> > The wiki proposal page is located at this URL: >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OlympianProposal >> > >> > I have also included the current text of that page below. >> > >> > Looking forward of comments or questions about this proposal. >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Henry Saputra >> > On behalf of Apache Olympian community >> > >> > >> > = Apache Olympian Proposal == >> > >> > == Abstract == >> > >> > Olympian (formerly Titan) is software designed to support the >> processing of >> > graphs so large that they require storage and computational capacities >> > beyond what a single machine can provide. Scaling graph data processing >> for >> > real time traversals and analytical queries is Olympian’s main benefit. >> > >> > == Proposal == >> > >> > Olympian consists of about 75K of Java code under the Apache 2 license >> > <http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0>. It supports very large >> > graphs, with many concurrent transactions and operational graph >> processing. >> > Olympian graphs scale with the number of machines in the cluster. >> Olympian >> > already integrates with a number of Apache projects: >> > >> > - >> > >> > Provides native support for the popular property graph data model >> > exposed by Apache TinkerPop <http://tinkerpop.apache.org/>. >> > - >> > >> > Provides native support for the Gremlin graph traversal language >> defined >> > by Apache TinkerPop for programming language agnostic connectivity. >> > - >> > >> > Provides graph persistence solutions with: >> > - >> > >> > Apache Cassandra <http://cassandra.apache.org/> >> > - >> > >> > Apache HBase <https://hbase.apache.org/> >> > - >> > >> > Provides advanced indexing with: >> > - >> > >> > Apache Lucene <https://lucene.apache.org/> >> > - >> > >> > Apache Solr <http://lucene.apache.org/solr/> >> > - >> > >> > Supports global graph analytics and batch graph processing through >> > the Apache >> > Hadoop <http://hadoop.apache.org/> framework with processors >> > implemented >> > with: >> > - >> > >> > Apache Spark <http://spark.apache.org/> >> > - >> > >> > Apache Giraph <http://giraph.apache.org/> >> > >> > >> > Other software Olympian interfaces with includes: >> > >> > - >> > >> > BerkeleyDB >> > - >> > >> > Elasticsearch >> > >> > >> > == Background == >> > >> > Marko Rodriguez and Matthias Broecheler, cofounders of the Aurelius >> graph >> > consulting firm, developed the Titan distributed graph database system >> and >> > made it available under the Apache 2 license in 2012. Marko is also a >> > cofounder of the Apache TinkerPop project and the primary developer of >> the >> > Gremlin graph traversal language. Other developers of Titan include Dan >> > LaRocque, Stephen Mallette, Daniel Kuppitz, and Pavel Yaskevich. >> Datastax >> > acquired Aurelius in February 2015, prior to the Titan 1.0 release in >> > September 2015. >> > >> > Since Titan became available on GitHub, there have been 4434 commits, 38 >> > branches, 23 releases, and 35 contributors. In 2016 there has been less >> > activity as the original authors are busy with other software >> development, >> > but there is significant interest from the community. >> > >> > == Rationale == >> > >> > (1) There are a number of Apache projects that integrate with Titan. >> > >> > (2) Apache Atlas (incubating) <http://atlas.incubator.apache.org/> >> > packages >> > and ships Titan as an essential component, yet Titan is not part of >> Apache. >> > >> > (3) There are a number of existing users of Titan who are keen to >> continue >> > to develop the code. These users provide the basis of the community for >> the >> > proposed project. >> > >> > == Initial Goals == >> > >> > The initial goals are as follows: >> > >> > - >> > >> > Establish the project governance in The Apache Way and broaden the >> > community. >> > - >> > >> > Distribute an incubating release aligned with the latest Apache >> > TinkerPop version and prepared in accordance with the Apache release >> > process. >> > - >> > >> > Improve the documentation. >> > - >> > >> > Add more unit/scenario tests. >> > - >> > >> > Contribute functional and performance-related enhancements to the >> code. >> > >> > >> > == Current Status == >> > >> > The project will be forked off the existing Titan code base. This code >> has >> > been available under the Apache 2 License but has not been subject to >> the >> > Apache governance. The proposed project will adhere to Apache’s >> governance >> > and processes. This is one of the key benefits and reasons for bringing >> the >> > project forward as an incubator candidate. >> > >> > There are 37 pull requests currently open against Titan, and the last >> pull >> > request was merged in June 2016. During incubation, the community will >> > adopt a voting-based approach to review and commit those changes into >> the >> > code base in preparation for the first incubating release. >> > >> > === Meritocracy === >> > >> > The proposed project will adopt the familiar process of progression from >> > submitter to contributor to PMC. The community includes active >> committers >> > and PMC members on other Apache projects (e.g. Apache TinkerPop, Apache >> > Atlas (incubating), Apache HBase). >> > >> > === Community === >> > >> > There is an active and passionate community of existing Titan users. It >> is >> > believed that this community will continue to grow and to progress. >> Titan >> > is well-designed to support different backends, and the community will >> > naturally grow as more backends are written to fit into the Titan >> > architecture. Since the Titan 1.0 release, 3 different storage providers >> > have become available. Also once an incubation release is made >> available, >> > the community will likely see quick adoption from the Apache TinkerPop >> user >> > base. >> > >> > === Core Developers === >> > >> > The community includes developers from a number of vendors (e.g. Google, >> > HortonWorks, IBM, Mindmaps, Classmethod) and users (both academic and >> > commercial). It contains two active committers and PMC members from the >> > Apache TinkerPop project, one active committer and PPMC member from >> Apache >> > Atlas (incubating), and one committer from Apache HBase. The developers >> > represent a good mixture of skills, including expertise with each of the >> > supported providers. >> > >> > === Alignment === >> > >> > The proposed project will be used by or integrated with a number of >> other >> > Apache components, including (probably) TinkerPop, Atlas, Hadoop, Spark, >> > Cassandra, and HBase. It is logical that the project should also be >> homed >> > within Apache and subject to the governance principles of Apache. >> > >> > == Known Risks == >> > >> > === Orphaned products === >> > >> > All the companies and developers associated with academic institutions >> who >> > are engaged or want to be engaged with Titan are well aware of the open >> > source philosophy and the importance of open governance of open source >> > products. Hence, we think the risks of Titan being orphaned are minimal. >> > >> > === Inexperience with Open Source === >> > >> > The project is based on an existing open source code base (Titan 1.0) >> and >> > the community consists of developers and vendors who have a history and >> > strategy of open development and governance. The initial committers >> include >> > committers and PMC members from other Apache projects. >> > >> > === Homogenous Developers === >> > >> > The community consists of geographically-dispersed volunteers from >> academic >> > and a range of commercial organisations. The geographic diversity >> includes >> > North America, Europe, Asia, and Australia. >> > >> > === Reliance on Salaried Developers === >> > >> > Many of the developers are salaried by the vendors in the community, but >> > the vendors have publicly stated their support for open systems and >> whilst >> > we might expect to see some gradual replacement of members of the >> > community, we believe that it will remain stable and viable into the >> > future. All members of the community are passionate about the project >> and >> > are likely to contribute outside of ‘normal working hours’. >> > >> > === Relationships with Other Apache Products === >> > >> > The proposed project has dependencies on other Apache projects, >> including >> > Cassandra and HBase, for example. There are Apache projects that depend >> > upon the availability of an open, scalable graph database. Apache Atlas >> is >> > an example of such a project. Apache S2Graph (incubating) >> > <https://s2graph.incubator.apache.org/> is currently an incubator >> project >> > at Apache, however it does not currently implement the Apache TinkerPop >> > interfaces, although it has an open JIRA for that effort. >> > >> > === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand === >> > >> > Whilst the Apache brand will help to attract developers and consumers to >> > the project, it is not for this reason that the proposal is being made. >> It >> > is to align the governance of the project with that of the other >> components >> > with which it is commonly used and to benefit from the development >> > principles adopted by Apache. In particular, TinkerPop is Titan’s most >> > critical component/dependency, one so tight that Titan releases are >> > contemporaneous or follow TinkerPop releases. >> > >> > == Documentation == >> > >> > Information on the existing Titan code base can be found at: >> > http://titan.thinkaurelius.com/ >> > >> > == Initial Source == >> > >> > The initial source will be based off a fork of the Titan code base. The >> > latter can be found at: https://github.com/thinkaurelius/titan. The >> fork >> > to >> > be used as the base is from: https://github.com/pluradj/titan >> > >> > == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan == >> > >> > Since Datastax owns the copyright and trademark for Titan, when the >> > proposal is accepted to the ASF Incubator, the community will choose a >> > different name. It is proposed that Titan will enter incubation with the >> > name Olympian. The community will finalize and document the name >> research >> > during incubation. Individuals in the community have discussed the >> > possibility of a software grant from Datastax, but Datastax was not >> > interested in donating code or brand to the ASF. When asked if they >> would >> > block others taking it to Apache they did not respond. >> > >> > == External Dependencies == >> > >> > Titan has the following external dependencies: >> > >> > * Java 1.8 >> > >> > * Apache Maven 3.0.5 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * JUnit 4.12 (EPL) >> > >> > * MRUnit 1.1.0 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Apache Cassandra (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Jamm (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Metrics 2.1.1 and 3.0.1 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Sesame 2.7.10 (Eclipse Public License Version 1.0) >> > >> > * slf4j 1.7.5 (MIT) >> > >> > * Apache HTTPComponents 4.4.1 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Apache Hadoop 1.2.1 & 2.7.1 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Apache HBase (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Jackson 1.9.2 & 2.4.4 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Apache Lucene 4.10.4 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Elasticsearch 1.5.1 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Apache Commons Beanutils 1.7.0 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Joda Time 1.6.2 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Google ConcurrentLinkedHashMap (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Antlr 2.7.7 And 3.2 (BSD License) >> > >> > * ASM 3 & 4 (http://asm.ow2.org/license.html) >> > >> > * Apache Zookeeper 3.4.6 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Jersey 1.9 (CDDL 1.1 and GPL v2) >> > >> > * JNA 4.0.0 (LGPL 2.1 and Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Kuali Maven s3 Wagon 1.1.20 (Educational Community License, Version >> 2.0) >> > >> > * Apache Tomcat Jasper 5.5.23 (Apache 2.0 License) >> > >> > * Berkeley DB 5.0.73 (Sleepycat License) >> > >> > Upon acceptance to the incubator, we would begin a thorough analysis of >> all >> > transitive dependencies to verify this information and introduce license >> > checking into the build and release process by integrating with Apache >> > Rat. In the case where a dependency has an Apache incompatible license, >> > such as Berkeley DB, we will remove or replace it with an appropriate >> > alternative. >> > >> > == Cryptography == >> > >> > Titan will support encryption of client-server communication through its >> > use of the Apache TinkerPop Gremlin Server. We do not expect Titan to >> be a >> > controlled export due to its use of encryption. >> > >> > == Required resources == >> > >> > === Mailing lists === >> > >> > * priv...@olympian.incubator.apache.org (with moderated subscriptions) >> > >> > * comm...@olympian.incubator.apache.org >> > >> > * d...@olympian.incubator.apache.org >> > >> > * u...@olympian.incubator.apache.org >> > >> > === Git Repository === >> > >> > The team would like to use git for source control. We request a writable >> > git repo https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-olympian.git >> , >> > and mirroring to be set up to GitHub through INFRA. We also request >> > configuration for continuous integration with Travis CI. >> > >> > === Issue Tracking === >> > >> > Titan currently uses the GitHub issue tracker and the team would like to >> > migrate all of these issues to the Apache JIRA. >> > >> > == Initial Committers == >> > >> > Dylan Bethune-Waddell - dylan.bethune.wadd...@mail.utoronto.ca >> > >> > Mathias Bogaert - mathias.boga...@gmail.com >> > >> > Misha Brukman - mbruk...@google.com >> > >> > Felix Chapman - fe...@mindmaps.io >> > >> > Sheldon Hall - shel...@mindmaps.io >> > >> > Jing Chen (Jerry) He - jerry...@apache.org >> > >> > Madhan Neethiraj - mneethi...@hortonworks.com >> > >> > Alexander Patrikalakis - a...@me.com >> > >> > Jason Plurad - plur...@apache.org >> > >> > Suma Shivaprasad - suma...@apache.org <sum...@apache.org> >> > >> > Lindsay Smith - lindsaysm...@google.com >> > >> > Filipe Teixeira - fppintoteixe...@gmail.com >> > >> > Ted Wilmes - twil...@apache.org >> > >> > == Affiliations == >> > >> > Dylan Bethune-Waddell - Jurisica Lab, Princess Margaret Cancer Centre, >> UHN >> > >> > Mathias Bogaert - Independent Contractor >> > >> > Misha Brukman - Google >> > >> > Felix Chapman - Mindmaps >> > >> > Sheldon Hall - Mindmaps >> > >> > Jing Chen (Jerry) He - IBM >> > >> > Madhan Neethiraj - HortonWorks >> > >> > Alexander Patrikalakis - Classmethod, Inc. >> > >> > Jason Plurad - IBM >> > >> > Suma Shivaprasad - HortonWorks >> > >> > Lindsay Smith - Google >> > >> > Filipe Teixeira - Mindmaps >> > >> > Ted Wilmes - Expero Inc. >> > >> > == Sponsors == >> > >> > === Champion === >> > >> > Henry Saputra - hsapu...@apache.org >> > >> > === Nominated Mentors === >> > >> > Alan Gates - ga...@apache.org >> > >> > P. Taylor Goetz - ptgo...@apache.org >> > >> > Henry Saputra - hsapu...@apache.org >> > >> > Michael Stack - st...@apache.org >> > >> > === Sponsoring Entity === >> > >> > The Apache Incubator >> > >> >
