John D. Ament wrote on 8/10/17 7:50 AM: > Just curious, but how do we know which marks the ASF actually owns? Rat > isn't a TLP so I'm a bit surprised we own "Apache Rat", or is it simply > implicit?
We claim that all Apache software *product* names are ASF trademarks: https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/ In the US, once you are publicly offering a product using a consistent name/logo, you can claim it as your trademark, no paperwork needed. The most important things are to have a consistent name, and to put the ™ symbol up or otherwise let the world know you claim it as a trademark. Most projects are common law trademarks, which you can just claim as your marks by doing so. Some projects have registered (or applied-for) trademarks, which give us far more rights but takes months of waiting for the application process (and requires the PMC to ask). As for "owns", that's a question that needs more clarification. We claim project names as our trademarks - so we own them. But common law trademarks have limited rights of control. Trademarks only apply in similar classes or kinds of goods, so saying "Apache Rat™" doesn't mean that we could prevent everyone from having a software product called Rat - only that they can't have a Rat software that would *be likely to confuse users as to the source of the product*. Does that make sense? - Shane > > John > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:46 AM Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: > >> (note mixed private/public lists) >> >> General questions, since... we haven't actually had any discussion yet. >> >> - Is there a particular hurry to bring this to pTLP faster than the >> traditional general@incubator discussion period is? >> >> - Has the Apache Creadur project been consulted about the new project >> proposal, and in particular do they have any comments on using DRAT as >> the name, which subsumes their popular Rat name? >> >> - It's awesome to see ™ included in a proposal (most people forget), but >> they're mixed up. Apache should be ® (when needed; when talking about >> individual project names it's usually not needed) and most project names >> should be ™. So it would be either Apache® Rat™ or Apache Rat™. >> >> Thanks for filling out the rest of the proposal. >> >> - Shane >> >> Chris Mattmann wrote on 8/10/17 1:59 AM: >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> Just as an FYI I've added a resolution to establish DRAT to the agenda. >>> >>> On item - 2 of the proposed PMC includes members without an Apache >> account. What to do in this situation? If they start only as committers, >> that's fine, but then we would create an account for them after the fact. >> Is this the desire? If so I will update the resolution and we can VOTE them >> in as PMC after the project is establish should the Board agree to do so. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> On 2017-08-02 10:35, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> Hi Board-Chat@, >>>> >>>> CC/Incubator@ >>>> >>>> We are proposing to bring DRAT (Distributed Release Audit Tool) to the >> ASF. >>>> DRAT is a parallelized version of Apache RAT that uses OODT, Solr and >> Tika to >>>> compute, visualize and interact with interesting statistics on code >> auditing as >>>> output by RAT and Tika. With DRAT you can: >>>> >>>> • Audit large code repositories (has been tested in 100s of M of >> lines of >>>> code, and 1000s of projects) where RAT fails to complete – an >> example of running it across all of Apache >>>> SVN is here: http://drat.dyndns.org:8080/dratviz/ You can also see its >> output >>>> for a very large set of NSF funded geosciences code repositories here: >>>> http://drat.dyndns.org:8080/dratontoviz/ >>>> • Visualize and interact with the output from RAT and Tika in a >> dynamic fashion >>>> • Get incremental status from code auditing >>>> • Audit individual code repos and integrate the results into your >> project >>>> >>>> DRAT was funded by DARPA, NASA, the NSF and other government entities. >>>> >>>> We have prepared a preliminary proposal here: >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DRATProposal >>>> >>>> We are working on flushing it out more, should be done by this weekend. >> We propose >>>> DRAT to be a straight to TLP (pTLP). I will add a resolution into the >> Board agenda for August 2017 >>>> for its consideration. I am CC’ing the Incubator so that we can >> potentially attract new contributors >>>> both seasoned and junior to the project. We also welcome any >> contributors from Creadur interested >>>> in learning more about OODT, Solr, Tika, etc. Also any Wicket gurus – >> we are using Wicket for one of >>>> DRAT’s key user interfaces, Proteus. >>>> >>>> OK, thanks! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> - Shane >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources >> > -- - Shane https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
