Hi Roman

> From a peanut gallery: has the podling considered PMC == committers at
> the graduation point?
> The two lists look very close to each other.

Good suggestion. I have started a discussion[1] in skywalking private.
I will feedback the conclusion later.


[1] 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/077eea102d7b678ae8dc22c46019fd88b0d7e1d839e523c3595071f9@%3Cprivate.skywalking.apache.org%3E


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Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
Twitter, wusheng1108


 




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From:  "roman"<[email protected]>;
Date:  Tue, Mar 5, 2019 12:49 PM
To:  "general"<[email protected]>;

Subject:  Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)



On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:42 PM Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 4, 2019, at 3:12 AM, Mick Semb Wever <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> >
> > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
> >> It also means that the person is aware that the private@ list is
> >> something they need to follow.
> >
> As noted else-thread, there is an alternate method to subscribing to the 
> email lists, by sending email to 
> [email protected]
>
> > Not getting any response at all is not an indication of whether the list 
> > exist of not, unfortunately.
> >
> > Anyway?? to the thread's discussion: every PPMC received an invitation (per 
> > Apache template) that requested subscription to both dev and private ML. 
> > Reading the ASF guidelines here: 
> > https://apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#communication ; I 
> > interpret it as they SHOULD be subscribed rather than MUST, and I'm curious 
> > as to whether how many of the TLPs are actually enforcing this among their 
> > pmc, if any. It's an interesting discussion?? but I'm not entirely 
> > convinced it's an accurate shortcoming to whether the podling is ready for 
> > graduation or not.
>
> I think the question is not "Is SkyWalking ready to graduate" but "Is the 
> proposed PMC list accurate".
>
> The PMC members are responsible for governing the TLP and as such need to be 
> familiar with what is expected of them. Governance activities are conducted 
> on the PPMC private list. If a PPMC member has not participated in any 
> governance activities during incubation, it's unclear that they belong on the 
> PMC.
>
> Reviewing the last several months of private@skywalking list, most of the 
> discussion of new committers has had only four or five participants, who are 
> clearly involved in governance of the project.

From a peanut gallery: has the podling considered PMC == committers at
the graduation point?
The two lists look very close to each other.

Thanks,
Roman.

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