> It is provable - take a look at the trademarks list. My quote issue. I mean that whether this project will go into the referred concern is neither provable nor unfalsifiable. So we focus on resolving the concrete explicit issue, and evaluate/mentor this "PPMC" follows trademark policy during incubation.
tison <wander4...@gmail.com>于2023年11月29日 周三08:11写道： > >> This is an issue as a company still owns the brand and trademark > > The doc site will be taken down once the transfer happens. > Like Ignite's docs won't be http://www.gridgain.org/documentation/ > after its transfer[1]. > > I intend to explain why it's _currently_ under ceresdb.github.io, but > it causes further confusion. > I'm sorry for this. > > >> In other cases e.g. Wth Flex, permission was given by Adobbe to use > the trademark. > > The doc site will be taken down once the transfer happens. > > So it's not an issue that - > >> Has the company given permission to use their trademark? > No or N/A. The HoraeDB website won't use CeresDB trademarks. > > >> If so, how is it allowed to be used? This should be included in the > proposal. > N/A > > >> IMO CeresDB is not used where it should be, giving a false impression > I updated the proposal as stated above. The changeset can be found at[2]. > > >>I think the proposal needs some improvements as mentioned above. > Thanks for pointing out concrete concerns and issues - they are replied. > > Best, > tison. > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/IgniteProposal > [2] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=278466865&selectedPageVersions=10&selectedPageVersions=9 > > Best, > tison. > > > Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> 于2023年11月29日周三 07:21写道： > > > > Hi, > > > > > I don't see if anywhere “CeresDB” should be used. If so, HoraeDB will > change. > > > > In the proposal, IMO CeresDB is not used where it should be, giving a > false impression. e.g. "HoraeDB has been open-sourced on GitHub for over a > year.” that is not correct as it was CeresDB as the name change only > happened a couple of weeks ago. > > > > > The org name is where it leaves now and shall not to change. This is > > > the same as datafuselabs/opendal doesn't change its org name before > > > proposing for incubation. > > > > There is precedent for keeping the org if it already has widespread use > and would harm the community with its change. However, it is strongly > recommended that the name be changed to the new one. The proposal should > state which direction the project will go in. > > > > > The same for its doc site ceresdb.github.io/docs > > > > This is an issue as a company still owns the brand and trademark. In > other cases e.g. Wth Flex, permission was given by Adobbe to use the > trademark. Has the company given permission to use their trademark? If so, > how is it allowed to be used? This should be included in the proposal. > > > > > Also, I don't think the time itself is an issue but the trust and > > > certainty, because Pekko renames all its references to Akka after > > > entering the incubator. > > > > Pekko was forced to rename due to a hostile license change and they > didn't own the name. The proposal stated that they would do this. > > > > > So, Justin, your comment is not a reason also, but a suspect for > > > uncertainty if "some entities have taken unfair advantage of this". > > > This is neither provable nor unfalsifiable. > > > > It is provable - take a look at the trademarks list. I did not want to > highlight any particular project and sidetrack the discussion. > > > > I think the proposal needs some improvements as mentioned above. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Justin > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >
