At 11:51 22/3/01 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>Peter Donald wrote:
>>
>> At 11:20 22/3/01 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>> >
>> >Why wouldn't the import be allowed? That's one of the reasons for
>> >commons : to provide a place to collaborate across projects...
>>
>> Go back to the original discussion. Essentially all components should not
>> rely on external frameworks but should use the JavaBeans style standards.
>> Any code that makes it into commons is either free of the framework or
>> allowed in with the assumption that it will be refactored to be free of the
>> framework.
>
>Ok. Remember the motivation is to provide software components that can
>be shared across projects. If they are tailored to one specific
>framework, they won't easily be able to work in another.
>
>If you make it more general, then I assume more people can share the
>software.
It is better to get a little reuse than none at all.
>> As a sharing mechanism between projects commons with it's centralized
>> control is bound to fail - but then again you know my opinion on that.
>> Decentralizng control was one of the things that could of made it work
>> combined with cjan. Oh well...
>
>What centralized control do you keep seeing here?
rules & regulations etc that seem to pop up. Trying to standardise on
things that do not directly facilitate sharing. From the comical code
standards to the somewhat disturbing fact that people who know nothing
about a component and have nothing to do with it get to control it's fate.
Building high-picket fences is not a good way to share.
So far it seems you have turned away the turbine, avalon, tomcat and cocoon
developers. Presumably this will trickle down to projects like jetspeed. In
the end you have ended up creating just another tribe - just what we need ;)
Cheers,
Pete
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