Ceki Gulcu wrote:
> Peter I do not need your permission to bring up a subject on the PMC
> list. It was uncourteous of you to forward my message to the general
> list without permission. If you had read my proposal carefully you
> would have seen that my proposal was to reach agreement on the PMC
> list first and than consult with the wider jakarta community.

Peter has a point, in that we're only suppose to use the PMC list for
security or other sensitive issues, much the way the Committer list is
used. Anything else should be handled on General. I didn't bring it up
myself, since I was hoping it would just go away. Discussing coding
conventions just creates a lot of traffic, and never accomplishes very
much. 

AFAIK, a formal change to the guidelines like this will require a 3/4
vote of the PMC, and it would seem unlikely that a proposal like this
would receive the requisite number of votes. Personally, I'm happy with
the guideline we already have

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html


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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Code conventions
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 02:18:18 +0100
From: Ceki G�lc� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Jakarta Project Management Committee List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello all,

As a follow up to the indentation discussion on the members list, I
would like to propose the following text to popular (=committer) vote.

Please indicate if you agree with the procedure of PMC draft followed
by popular vote. Although the PMC may have the mandate to impose
indentation
rules, I feel it is wiser to consult the wider committer population.

Here is my first draft of the text to be submitted to popular vote.

======================================================================

In order to enforce cohesion across Jakarta projects as well as the
jakarta brand, the jakarta PMC would like to submit the following two
articles to popular vote.

Article 1)

   All Java Language source code in the repository must be written in
conformance to the "Code Conventions for the Java Programming
Language" (http://java.sun.com/docs/codeconv/html/CodeConvTOC.doc.html)
as
published by Sun.

Article 2)

   Recognizing that migrating large amounts of code is no trivial
matter, a transition period of 6 months, starting after the adoption
of Article 1, is hereby granted to every subproject. After the
transition period every project is expected to fully adhere to the
code conventions adopted in Article 1.

The above articles will be adopted if and only if at least two thirds
of expressed votes are cast in favor. 

Note that article 1 implies K&R style indentation of braces.

========================================================================

Regards, Ceki

ps. Best wishes for the new year.

--

Ceki G�lc� - http://qos.ch

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