On 1/1/02 6:04 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >> >>> My rationale was that the goal of GUMP as I understand it now, is to >>> ensure that all projects play well with each other in term of >>> compatibility. It seems natural to extend it so that it can also be >>> asked to retrieve all dependent jars for a given project. >> >> Not to me. Gump to me is an early warning tool to ensure API stability >> across dependent projects, and must, by definition, always work on the >> current bleeding edge of all projects. It must do this because once you >> test a set of released versions, nothing changes :) >> >> So gump doesn't even have the dependent jars for the released versions - it >> uses more bleeding edge jars it makes itself to satisfy the dependencies. > > Gump can and does use jars checked into cvs: > > http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/cvsjars.html
Ok - these seem to be jars you can't or don�t want to build yourself? > > Gump can and does use jars installed on the machine: > > http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/packages.html > Which appear to be things you can't build either. I don't understand what you are trying to say here. > Many of the nightly builds for various subprojects are published based on > what gump produces in the manner desired by the communities for these > subprojects. Many of these include in bundled form the jars referenced by > the build. > But a nightly build isn't a release, right? Wasn't this discussion motivated by Ted looking into getting projects to offer release build jars alone w/o the whole source/docs distro to make for convenient downlaod? > For more information on what the goal of Gump is (or more precisely, why it > was written), please see > > http://jakarta.apache.org/gump/why.html That's good. Here's your summary : * It is easier to get a patch accepted against the most current version of a project than some previous baseline. * It is much more effective to express your opinion on a change that will affect you before that change is released than afterwards. So since this is indeed the goal of gump ( actually, I think they are reasons rather than a goal...) then I think that my understanding relative to this discussion is correct, isn't it? > > - Sam Ruby > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
