Peter Donald wrote:
>
>> Again, you might think the above is flip, but you are talking about
>> modifying the charter here...
>
> The charter was modified ages ago. Sure the words haven't changed but it has
> been a long time since jakarta project was actually true to the words in its
> charter ... see Ant the "server-side" project
>
> So instead of accepting that we violate scope with more than half the jakarta
> projects people took to inventing reasons to keep them at jakarta. ie Ant
> became acceptable because it was a tool that could be used to build
> serverside projects. How silly is that reason?

Slightly revisionist.  Ant was part of the original charter for Jakarta.
There was a sister project named "Java" which contained a number of other
projects

Just to have a little fun (and this time, it is very intentional)... the
project I consider most "out of scope" is dvsl.  There is nothing server
specific about it, and has everything in the world to do with XML.  Check
it out for yourself: http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/dvsl/index.html .

I still maintain that scope is a distraction.  Community is what is
important.

- Sam Ruby


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