I've no problem with that if Ken is given committer access, the 
community agrees and comes up with a plan to integrate the two and all. 
 I just figured it made more sense to have a project specifically for it 
rather than a subproject of a subproject that has nothing to do with it 
in general.  But there has to be a sincere effort not just a "squash 
centipede by saying yes to the proposal then -1ing the implemnetation". 
 We need the features of Centipede and I really don't want to go through 
the pain of maturing Maven's implementation of those.  If the two work 
together its virtually irrelevant to me WHERE.  I just want the "to".  

Personally I'd like to see the combined Centaven moved to a 
jakarta.org/centaven level.  If this effort is truely undertaken, POI 
will upgrade to a combined centaven.  (I don't care what its named its 
the senitment).. .  Then who wins?  Well everyone.  We get what we need.  

(and POI is turning out to be a pretty successful Jakarta project -- 
we've even influenced some folks over to the bright side of the force -- 
opensource the apache way -- who might not have been otherwise!  Even if 
we're cast the rebels inside the rebel group.  And I think most of us 
have even learned to enjoy your posts Jon.)

-Andy

Jon Scott Stevens wrote:

>on 5/1/02 5:30 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>So why not push Maven into Centipede?  Whats the rationalization for the
>>competition?  Ken can you give a few of the Maven guys CVS access and
>>Maven guys.  Can you all work together?  I've not seen a compelling
>>different approach.  The seperation seems to be ego-based so says me.
>>
>
>How abou the other way around? Push Centipede into Maven?
>
>(for the same reasons why POI came over to Jakarta)
>
>-jon
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