Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > >Sure, the developers are working together on *some* stuff, but the core >products they are not and my original Tomcat arguments were that it was lame >to have two different containers. I got proven wrong from the point of view >that enough people wanted T3 to survive. I got proven right that T3 >distracted a limited set of resources (ie: people) from T4. > > Open Source does not care about optimizing resources, but about creating, maintaining and supporting communities.
This is an argument I have had enough time with project managers who think that Open Source is inefficient: IT IS! It is about enabling more ants to thrive in the anthill, not about exploiting the ants to pick more food _per capita_. It is really a way to tackle more complexity, not about being more efficient at it. The proof is that all of us are here losing our time instead of picking a quick winner and going back to work. So, if the split of tomcat enabled more production sites using tomcat 3 while tomcat 4 was ready, or more programmers coming to tomcat 4 to test cool new features, it was actually good... because they did not parted away, and shared their relative successes together. The same could happen here. If XML-centric people think about cool things (like finding a clean way to drop beans as context for document transformations... Peter Donald had a cool idea on this some time ago (DOM on the fly)), while template-centric people develop even cooler things (like having a properly recursive way to specify transforms without having the horrible syntax that XSLT shows ), I would be really delighted, and my employers even more. (Actually I would like to have both things, to use them effectively in content aggregation). The point I have been trying to make is that the important thing is to avoid losing the connection between both efforts, and to coordinate together the efforts. Some people pointed to reasonable approaches (Costin one of them). Isn't there a way to find common grounds? Santiago PS) As a proper spanish quixote, I can't avoid to jump here: > I hope another jakarta commiter will join me and second my -1. > I second! until I feel a situation in which there is no one of us that feels defeated, maybe all of us just a little bit deceived. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>