Craig, great remark... otherwise: lack of constructive answers to both the outspoken and implicit questions in this thread make me wonder if those very committers here the question? want to answer? (I don't dare to question the eagerness to go and scratch the itch of course :-))
some constructive progress on this can be trapped on the forrest-dev list http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&w=2&r=1&s=dream&q=b there is work, eagerness and open ears there although I favor equally Berins remark on covering this topic on general lists (which brings back the issue on which general@ ? xml.apache or jakarta.apache :) ) -marc= > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: donderdag 2 mei 2002 23:31 > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > > > > > On Thu, 2 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 14:24:58 -0700 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > > > > > > Berin Loritsch says: > > > There are other dirty underhanded things that M$ did to get where it > > > is today. Don't try to compare us to M$. We're not M$. > > > > > > Whenever someone tells me how much MSFT has done for technology, I > > can't help but think of how far we might have gotten if MSFT hadn't > > been so in the way all these years! > > For all the nasty things Microsoft has done over the years, they have also > been pretty good at one particular thing -- asking their customers (and > potential customers) what they want, and listening to the answer. > > It seems to me that authors of a build environment that they want > "everyone" to use would think about going and asking the potential users > (i.e. committers on various other projects) what their requirements are, > before any attempt (by those authors, or by anyone else as was the case > that started this particular flamefest) to shove it down everyone's > throats. > > This is a characteristic of pretty much every company that gains long > term and/or mainstream acceptance for their products. Too bad some open > source developers haven't learned that the same principles can apply here. > > > Jeff Sexton > > Craig McClanahan > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
