> From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> Of course that from the way Jon talks about me you can tell that
> I do not always agree with him - Jon seems to only be friendly
> to those that agree with him.

For the record, I've even committed the cardinal sin of creating a MVC
webapp framework which is not Turbine (http://mav.sourceforge.net), and
Jon is still pretty friendly to me :-)


You guys all need to lighten up.  It's not like this is a workplace
where everyone is competing for promotions or something.  How this
social game plays out isn't going to affect your paycheck or the people
who hang out with you or whether or not you're going to get laid this
weekend.

A fair amount of banter is healthy in any community.  Poking fun at each
other, lighthearted insults, competition, and yes conflict are a
standard part of any sitcom production.  Sure, there's a time for "we
all love each other" mushy-type stuff but if it was like that all the
time it would get boring really damn fast.  It is my observation that
Apache works because of thick skins, not because of peace, love, and
happiness vibes.

There's nothing wrong with a limited number of competing projects under
one roof.  It's probably even a good idea.  It's not like Maven and
Centipede are competing implementations of the same API - this is pretty
much a research field, and it's impossible to categorically predict at
this point whether it is better to extend or generate the Gump
descriptors, or to use XSLT or DVSL, etc.  Until the science becomes
engineering, this mad driving need (among some) to "merge merge merge"
is a pathology.

Let it be.  Use the software you like.  Write the software you like.
Berate people over the truly important things, like choice of text
editor :-)

Jeff Schnitzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ed is the *standard* text editor

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