Its too bad that the clans don't play nice together...  I'm convinced
together... They could come up with something MUCH MUCH better than this
mess. (provided some GUI wonks could be found) ;-)

(and there is my theme) ;-)

-Andy


On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 10:42, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > So putting out crap code that you have to toggle and mess with over and
> > over again is where the money is at in web app development.  So what is
> > the solution?  There isn't one...web app development is still a big
> > hairy mess.  Choice is good. ;-)
> 
> Well put, not only this last part, but the whole...
> 
> True, XML is a good approach from a technical point of view, but unusable
> from some others (don't ask me to teach XSLT to our web guys, please!).
> 
> JSPs can work for some, but they definitely introduce drawbacks when
> thinking how they are implemented (they destroy my servlet container).
> 
> Velocity is simple, doesn't mess around with my servlets, but it's
> interpreted.
> 
> Tea is fast, quite easy, but again the syntax is bad...
> 
> There is _no_optimal_ solution... Just the one that works for you...
> 
>     Pier
> 
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