Just goes to show you. A sad comment on software development: The only thing worse than our still crappy tools for doing things are our crappy methods of doing them.
-Andy On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 10:38, Steve Downey wrote: > >From Scott Adams > Wally: I recommedend we build a tracking database. > Dilbert: We could put it on the network! > PHB: Wouldn't you like to know what the problem is first? > Dilbert: We like databases. > > Databases get used in lots of wrongheaded ways. No argument. > But OO people tend to fall into the other trap, treating the database as a > 'persistance mechanism'. Then ending up with tons of objects with no behavior > other than being able to persist and reify themselves from a datastore. And > blaming the database because it's not great at that. > > On Thursday 10 October 2002 08:00 am, Tom Copeland wrote: > > Since we're OT already, I have to interject a good Jamie Zawinski > > database quote: > > > > =========== > > It was a hard sell, since he's a database person, and as far as I've > > seen, once those database worms eat into your brain, it's hard to ever > > get anything practical done again. To a database person, every nail > > looks like a thumb. Or something like that. > > =========== > > > > tom > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Downey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:52 PM > > To: Jakarta General List > > Subject: Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ??? > > > > On Wednesday 09 October 2002 07:18 pm, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > > > On 9/10/02 3:47, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Even when Quick and Dirty takes longer. I tried to convince my boss > > > > that > > > > > > a certain "customization" required so many fundamental changes that > > > > it > > > > > > would be quicker and easier to develop/maintain if we did it right. > > > > He > > > > > > told me that he would never be able to convince the CEO that was the > > > > right choice, so the "Quick and Dirty" route was the choice--taking > > > > me > > > > > > twice as long to get it done. > > > > > > I got out of the same tie today, but I won! :-) And it was about > > > > Objects in > > > > > PL-SQL... That was a close one! :-) > > > > Objects in PL-SQL. > > > > I still have nightmares. > > > > SQLJ and Oracle's Object extensions were so seductive. > > > > <shudder> > > > > And I'm in the camp that thinks the ad going around with the > > snail/cheetah <=> > > Relational/Object just shows that most OO developers are ignorant > > regarding > > the relational model. > > > > > Pier > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
