From Scott Adams
Wally: I recommedend we build a tracking database.
Dilbert: We could put it on the network!
PHB: Wouldn't you like to know what the problem is first?
Dilbert: We like databases.

Databases get used in lots of wrongheaded ways. No argument. 
But OO people tend to fall into the other trap, treating the database as a 
'persistance mechanism'. Then ending up with tons of objects with no behavior 
other than being able to persist and reify themselves from a datastore. And 
blaming the database because it's not great at that. 

On Thursday 10 October 2002 08:00 am, Tom Copeland wrote:
> Since we're OT already, I have to interject a good Jamie Zawinski
> database quote:
>
> ===========
> It was a hard sell, since he's a database person, and as far as I've
> seen, once those database worms eat into your brain, it's hard to ever
> get anything practical done again. To a database person, every nail
> looks like a thumb. Or something like that.
> ===========
>
> tom
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Downey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:52 PM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???
>
> On Wednesday 09 October 2002 07:18 pm, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> > On 9/10/02 3:47, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Even when Quick and Dirty takes longer.  I tried to convince my boss
>
> that
>
> > > a certain "customization" required so many fundamental changes that
>
> it
>
> > > would be quicker and easier to develop/maintain if we did it right.
>
> He
>
> > > told me that he would never be able to convince the CEO that was the
> > > right choice, so the "Quick and Dirty" route was the choice--taking
>
> me
>
> > > twice as long to get it done.
> >
> > I got out of the same tie today, but I won! :-) And it was about
>
> Objects in
>
> > PL-SQL... That was a close one! :-)
>
> Objects in PL-SQL.
>
> I still have nightmares.
>
> SQLJ and Oracle's Object extensions were so seductive.
>
> <shudder>
>
> And I'm in the camp that thinks the ad going around with the
> snail/cheetah <=>
> Relational/Object just shows that most OO developers are ignorant
> regarding
> the relational model.
>
> >     Pier


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