Cool. Could this be added as a note to the proposal? As a dependency or
whatever.

Hen

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> >From talking with Prashant, the grant is in-progress. Given that these discussions 
> >tend to ramble on for a couple of weeks, I think the grant will be ready long 
> >before any real action is necessitated.
>
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web
> Components
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> >
> > So this proposal is dependent on the grant?
> >
> > Any time line on that?
> >
> > [not trying to get in the way, jsut to do the pmc-thing]
> >
> > On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > The offending IP has been taken off-line: this includes the HiveMind CVS
> > > repository, the temporary downloads directory and (most regrettably) the
> > > HiveMind home page.
> > >
> > > This proposal is half of the resolution to the IP issue. The other (and
> > > possibly more important part) is the software grant that is being
> > > processed inside WebCT.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Creator, Tapestry: Java Web
> > > Components
> > > http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> > > >
> > > > Daft question, possibly, but could someone summarise the IP issue that was
> > > > happening over HiveMind and how it is currently resolved.
> > > >
> > > > I've not been following the thread, but I've seen the noise. Is everything
> > > > squared away and happy?
> > > >
> > > > Hen
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Nayak, Prashant wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
>
> > > > > Proposal for the HiveMind Project
> > > > >
> > > > > (0) Rationale
> > > > >
> > > > > HiveMind is a simple framework for creating pluggable, configurable,
> > > > > reusable services.
> > > > >
> > > > > Simple: HiveMind is a way to create a network of services in terms of
> > > > > Java interfaces and classes; it cherry picks the most useful ideas from
> > > > > Service Oriented Architectures such as J2EE, JMX and SOAP, but removes
> > > > > the aspects that are typically overkill for most applications, such as
> > > > > service remoteability and language neutrality. HiveMind creates a
> > > > > natural network of related services and configuration data, all
> > > > > operating within a single JVM.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pluggable: HiveMind enforces a complete separation of service definition
> > > > > and implementation. This is manifested by a division of services into an
> > > > > interface definition and a service implementation as well as a split
> > > > > between defining a service (as part of a HiveMind module) and providing
>
> > > > > the implementation of that service (potentially, in a different module).
> > > > >
> > > > > Configurable: HiveMind integrates a service oriented architecture to a
> > > > > sophisticated configuration architecture; the configuration architecture
> > > > > is adapted from the Eclipse plug-in model, wherein modules may define
> > > > > configuration extension points and multiple modules may provide
> > > > > contributions to those extension points.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reusable: HiveMind is a framework and container, but not an application.
> > > > > The HiveMind framework and the services it provides may be easily
> > > > > combined with application-specific services and configurations for use
> > > > > in disparate applications.
> > > > >
> > > > > The API for HiveMind allows thread-safe, easy access to services and
> > > > > configurations with a minimal amount of code. The value-add for HiveMind
> > > > > is not just runtime flexibility: it is overall developer productivity.
>
> > > > > HiveMind systems will entail less code; key functionality that is
> > > > > frequently an after-thought, such as parsing of XML configuration files,
> > > > > logging of method invocations, and lazy creation of services, is handled
> > > > > by the HiveMind framework in a consistent, robust, and well-documented
> > > > > manner.
> > > > >
> > > > > HiveMind fits into an area that partially overlaps the Apache Avalon
> > > > > project, with significant differences. HiveMind's concept of a
> > > > > distributed configuration is unique among the available service
> > > > > microkernel's (Avalon, Keel, Spring, Picocontainer, etc.). Avalon is
> > > > > firmly rooted in a type-1 inversion of control pattern (whereby services
> > > > > must explicitly, in code, resolve dependencies between each other using
> > > > > a lookup pattern similar to JNDI). HiveMind uses a mix of type-2 and
> > > > > type-3 IoC, whereby the framework (acting as container) creates
> > > > > connections between services by setting properties of the services
>
> > > > > (type-2) or making use of particular constructors for the services
> > > > > (type-3).
> > > > >
> > > > > HiveMind represents a generous donation of code to the ASF by WebCT
> > > > > (http://www.webct.com). HiveMind originated from internal requirements
> > > > > for a flexible, loosely-coupled configuration management and services
> > > > > framework for WebCT's industry-leading flagship enterprise e-learning
> > > > > product, Vista. Several individuals in WebCT's research and development
> > > > > team in addition to Mr. Howard Lewis Ship contributed to the
> > > > > requirements and concepts behind HiveMind's current set of functionality
> > > > > including Martin Bayly, Diane Bennett, Bill Bilic, Michael Kerr,
> > > > > Prashant Nayak, Bill Richard and Ajay Sharda. HiveMind is already in use
> > > > > as a significant part of Vista.
> > > > >
> > > > > (1) Scope of the package
> > > > >
> > > > > The package shall entail a core framework JAR (containing essential
> > > > > classes and services), a standard library JAR (containing generically
>
> > > > > useful services), along with ancillary artifacts such as Maven plug-ins
> > > > > and, of course, documentation, all distributed under the Apache Software
> > > > > License.
> > > > >
> > > > > (1.1) Interaction with other packages
> > > > >
> > > > > HiveMind has dependencies on several standard commons packages,
> > > > > including: commons-lang, commons-beanutils, commons-collections and
> > > > > commons-logging.
> > > > >
> > > > > HiveMind makes use of the Javassist bytecode generation library, which
> > > > > is available under the MPL (Mozilla public license).
> > > > >
> > > > > (2) Identify the initial source for the package
> > > > >
> > > > > The initial code base has been developed by Howard M. Lewis Ship within
> > > > > the Jakarta Commons incubator.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind
> > > > >
> > > > > (2.1) Identify the base name for the package
> > > > >
> > > > > org.apache.hivemind
> > > > >
> > > > > Note: the current code base reflects an alternate package name,
>
> > > > > org.apache.commons.hivemind.  Subsequent research has shown that
> > > > > HiveMind is not a suitable candidate for the Jakarta Commons. The
> > > > > existing code base will be migrated to the new package during the
> > > > > transition out of the sandbox.
> > > > >
> > > > > (2.2) Identify the coding conventions for this package
> > > > >
> > > > > The code follows a modified version of Sun's standard coding
> > > > > conventions, with the following stylistic changes:
> > > > > - instance variables are prefixed with an underscore
> > > > > - a newline is inserted before all braces
> > > > >
> > > > > (3) Identify any Jakarta resources to be created
> > > > >
> > > > > (3.1) mailing lists
> > > > >
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- User discussions
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Developer discussions and CVS update
> > > > > notifications
> > > > >
> > > > > (3.2) CVS repositories
> > > > >
> > > > > The package will use a root branch of the hivemind CVS repository (to be
> > > > > created).
> > > > >
> > > > > (3.3) Bugzilla
> > > > >
>
> > > > > The package should be listed as top level component, "HiveMind".
> > > > >
> > > > > (4) Identify the initial set of committers to be listed in the Status
> > > > > File.
> > > > >
> > > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Prashant Nayak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Martin Bayly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Christian Essl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Harish Krishnaswamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Knut Wannheden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >
> > > > > This list represents the most active HiveMind participants within WebCT
> > > > > and on the Jakarta Commons Developer mailing list. Notably, Mr.s Essl,
> > > > > Krishnaswamy and Wannheden, among others, have already been actively
> > > > > mentoring other interested users on the mailing list in how to use
> > > > > HiveMind as well as contributing design ideas and patches to the
> > > > > framework itself.
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
> > > > >
> > > > > Prashant Nayak
> > > > > Senior Architect, WebCT Inc.
> > > > > Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > >
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