On Fri, 31 Dec 2004, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
What I was thinking of for projects is something like:
+----------------+ |=Projects=======| +--Subprojects---+ | * Alexandia | | * etc... | +--Graduated-----+ | * Ant | | * etc... | +----------------+
I have two concerns with this: It takes up more space and nothing else uses subheadings. It does put Graduated into context with a noun, though.
My concern is that most users don't care about TLP vs Jakarta owned. So, does the terminology 'graduated' help? Why does the user care that some projects started at Jakarta, while other Java projects didn't?
They care only in so far as they come to jakarta.apache.org looking for the old project etc.
Unless and until Jakarta can become a Java portal @ Apache we have to deal with this though. It would seem to me that 'Related' was a looser word for these projects, and allows us to include other projects that didn't start at Jakarta.
Related's problem is that it is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we have to actively manage it as each new Java project is added to the ASF. Or at least the ones that are considered related to Jakarta for some definition of related. The 'News elsewhere' section has the same problem; what is the rationale for it and why is Jakarta the right place to find it.
While I think there's room for a [EMAIL PROTECTED] site somewhere (though I'm not sure there's really community nowadays at that level), I'm trying to untangle it from the main part of the Jakarta site.
Other ideas:
* Kill the navbar link to non-Jakarta projects and have a central bit for recently promoted projects. Over 6 months or so, retire the link there.
* Add a 'Other ASF Projects' at the bottom of our Subprojects list. If people can't find something, they click on that and goto the ASF Projects page.
Also, I don't see any need to use a noun/subheadings here. For me, 'Related' on its own would be a sufficient defintion.
The pedantic view is: "Related to what?". Non-nouns need context. Related works okay as the context is Jakarta and that's the context of the page. Graduated is weaker as the context is 'From Jakarta' and that's not the page's context.
As a sidenote, we should have a 'Incubating' section or something with Agila in it.
Hen
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