Just catching up on mail (and pretty tired, so forgive me if not everything is clear / using words
not in an English dictionary. )
Henri Yandell wrote:
What do people think to the following:
1) Every existing committer not on the pmc receives an email asking if
they would like to join the pmc. Once that email is sent they are marked
in a file as having had the email sent and we can wash our hands until a
reply comes in.
2) Every new committer automatically gets added to the pmc.
I am -1 on both, at least not at this point of time. As you noted yourself, we have over 400
committers currently in Jakarta, which is a huge number. Being on the PMC means project oversight,
legal protection and having binding votes about releases. Do committers who have been inactive for a
long time and are not on the PMC have actually a need to be on the PMC to be able to correctly carry
out their inactiveness ?
I prefer the path the previous chair (wink) had chosen, to at least at the date people were made
committer and monitor those people where possible and at least ping the nominator (who is hopefully
also a kind of mentor to the new committer) after a period in time to ask how everything is going
and if it could be time to get him or her nominated for the PMC.
Phil also proposed the self-nominations. Directly asking for being something (being a committer /
PMC Member, the CEO at a company, etc) is not considered good practice normally, since your actions
should be nominating you, which is, in my view, happening currently, although maybe not as well as
we probably want it to be.
I will make some time this weekend to restructure and update the current pmc documents in subversion
to be able to easier to keep track of people (not meant as a big brother thing, but more as a "we
shouldn't forget" thing). If no one really needs this, than I will do it for just myself, since I
tend to misplace names a lot.
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I bring it up because the concept has cropped up elsewhere at the ASF
and given our large non-pmc to pmc ratio I think we'll have a lot of
strong views on the subject.
This ratio is not a very good measurement in the Jakarta case. A better ratio is when you add active
committers that are on the pmc and not on the pmc. My gutt feeling says the ratio could probably be
better (as Oleg just noticed), but is not completely broken.
Mvgr,
Martin
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