Hi,

well, I always thought that the PMC also has a legal role for the code
that it governs? So there might be committers that don't want to be on
the PMC for that reason.

I'm cautious +0 for this. 

        Best regards
                Henning

On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 16:53 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote:
> Being on a PMC means two actionable things. Firstly, you get a binding 
> vote; and secondly, you can subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - a list which 
> should be pretty quiet (mostly it's just vote results now - would be nice 
> to move those to this list).
> 
> The purpose of the binding vote is that that allows you to perform 
> oversight on behalf of the foundation - it's not me making a release, it's 
> the foundation.
> 
> That's all there is. It's nothing special, just that we can yay or nay 
> something. There's not even any paperwork beyond the board ack email. 
> Given that - why do we have committers and pmc members? Why do we have 
> people in our community who have been accepted as committers and are 
> happily churning code, but are not allowed a binding vote? It's definitely 
> not because we have an enormously low bar of entry to being a committer.
> 
> My view is that we shouldn't keep wasting our time on such a separation. 
> There is no danger at all (given our size) to having a new committer 
> immediately join the PMC, and there are notable benefits in that we don't 
> have to keep remembering to add people to the pmc (which we really suck at 
> doing) and we'll have a more open environment (which we all like right?). 
> Also we won't have second class citizens who have to yet again sit and 
> wait while their elders remember to nominate them as an elder.
> 
> What do people think to the following:
> 
> 1) Every existing committer not on the pmc receives an email asking if 
> they would like to join the pmc. Once that email is sent they are marked 
> in a file as having had the email sent and we can wash our hands until a 
> reply comes in.
> 
> 2) Every new committer automatically gets added to the pmc.
> 
> ---
> 
> I bring it up because the concept has cropped up elsewhere at the ASF and 
> given our large non-pmc to pmc ratio I think we'll have a lot of strong 
> views on the subject.
> 
> Hen
> 
> (Yeah, I recognize that the above is flamebait if we have any strong 
> opinions out there. Hopefully it'll stay constructive :) )
> 
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