....so this thread died again without a conclusion or resulution.

My take with as few words as possible:

* push for active project to go TLP
* jakarta.apache.org - the portal to all java projects at apache. Just a shell - but let's keep the brand. Not necessarily a PMC required. (Although a non-code project trying to improve collaboration between java projects would be an idea to discuss) * ${commons}.apache.org - as people have concerns about the name (as there is more than java) let's find a new one.
  - commonsj
  - jcommons
  - ...
* dormant.apache.org - maybe a place where we put not just old stuff from jakarta

cheers
--
Torsten

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