Dear all,

Well, to start this email could be offensive to some people so i start
with saying sorry to all and do not take it personal it is just a
"point of view".

This is a very long email so you can discarded since it has nothing
important in it ...

As i see our LUG has failed from the days of ITU, and it was in the
ICU for a long time, and finally it died peacfully.

During the days of ITU many people tried to do many things, we build
our website, and used the wiki system to make it possible for everyone
to edit the pages and help in improving our website, and what happened
is only 4-5 people was editing the website and decreased to 1 then to
0.

People came to the ITU lectures just expecting to take and not to give
and around 98% of the attendees didn't want to give. We have a
cultural issue, we have been raised to depend on others and to be
feded the information, this is the way schools and universities work
here in Jordan. No one wants to read or try things, and when we wanted
to hold people responsible for that a war started are we committed or
not.

Well, we had an idea that we have to build this LUG based on what you
said, but people doesn't want to be responsible and almost everyone
avoided to hold the responsibilities, and even if he accepted to do
what he was asked to do he doesn't do it.

Well, we are a lazy culture and we already have our personal issues
and our personal things to do, well, i personally prefer to play cards
more than to edit our website, especially when i return back to home
at 8 pm, i want to eat, enjoy my time, and spend sometime with the
family so i do NOT have time for this LUG and i am sure that most of
you has the same issue

As Aram said, if we are going to pay fees then i need to expect
something for that money that i paid, and with this type of mentality
and style of life (of all of us) the people who are going to pay money
will get disappointed because they are going to get nothing in return.

For a steering committy to work it needs people to steer, and if there
will be responsibilities then the steering committy is going to steer
itself, so it is not going to work.

Amer i am not asking you to be realistic, but since you didn't attend
so much meetings then you don't know the people who are in the LUG
already and you don't really know what we need and how can we succeed.
You are like someone who consults NASA to go to the sun without having
any idea about the astronomy.

All of the people who comes to the social meetings are enjoying the
meetings and having fun, and we personally wants to keep it that way,
if you do not like that, you can start your own LUG and do it the way
you like and you may have people who likes to join you, and you don't
know if you succeeded we may join you too.

That been said, i am sorry for anyone who got upset and i am sorry for
saying the truth in that way, and as i said before, this is a free
world who doesn't like it can start doing it his own way and we all
wish him luck and success.

Best regards,

On 6/2/05, Jad Madi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i'm with fees, but I'm against khawa fees, I think it should be lali
> bedo yedfa3 yedfa3
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Khamis Siksek

When they thought of finding another name for FreeSoftware, they
thought of OpenSource and KhamisSiksek ...
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They chose the wrong one :-(

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