> the same spirit of decommting workspace in flavor of scripts, that searching > names inside scripts is preferable to searching names inside loaded locales.
Habits of a lifetime, Bill. APL has induced an occupational deformity in me. Basically I'd agree with you, as advice to beginners. As a callow youth, they taught me to fly planes. Experienced pilots hated the idea of fly-by-wire. They wanted to know there was a direct mechanical linkage from the joystick to the control surfaces, even if (like power steering) it's only there for reassurance and can't feasibly be used on its own. To me the "workspace" debate in J has similarities. A lot depends on whether you're browsing someone else's code, as you find it in your system, or writing your own for release. If the latter, I'd say always work on the script itself. When all else fails, only then work on what got squirted into memory. The fact you don't have a script in APL is not a defence of workspace technology but a tribute to the stability of the full-screen (del) editor -- agonisingly evolved over decades. Just think back to APLSV on the early 3270 screens. But I shouldn't go digging up old bones. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 5:51 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > I didn't know this verb and have never used it before. However I guess, in > the same spirit of decommting workspace in flavor of scripts, that searching > names inside scripts is preferable to searching names inside loaded locales. > For > example use FIF to search 'deb' in global names should return the same (or > more) definitions as that returing from whs. > > That said, I rarely use FIF by now because I seldom use ide either. > > ymmv > >> To sniff over any new word I've discovered, I make heavy use of my >> home-brewed: >> whs=: (>@whichlocales) ; whichscript >> >> used like this: >> whs'deb' >> ┌──────────────────────────────────────────┬─┬─┬─┬────┬────┐ >> │/Applications/j602/system/main/strings.ijs│z│z│j│jfiw│jijs│ >> └──────────────────────────────────────────┴─┴─┴─┴────┴────┘ >> >> ...from which you see "deb" resides all over the place (in identical >> copies, fortunately :) >> >> I find "whs" egregiously useful. Most of the bugs I encounter come >> from what is [not] loaded, and where it is [from]. >> >> The verbs it needs: whichlocales, whichscript, along with: >> listnameswithprefix (just as useful) can be copied from: >> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Phrases/Names . It happens they are >> *not* part of stdlib. I think they should be. (@Ric; how about it?) > > -- > regards, > ==================================================== > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
