I have always been a great fan of labs.

In the J6 labs/demos are absolutely great.

In J7 there is somewhat of a confusion about how to feel about labs and
demos.

I have mixed feelings what to say or do about labs and demos in J7.

I looked at the page you refer to and I think it is a god beginning.

I counted the entries on the page and counted 49 labs

On the JHS labs choosing page I counted 77 labs

In the GTK labs selection I counted 83 labs

In the labs selection the full names are a bit different between JHS and GTK

I would like to see the same name in both and I would also like to see the
columns from the test page of the status of the lab if it is fully tested
and working or if it is still under some kind of transfer problem and then I
mean where I am choosing the lab in JHS and GTK to make life for the
user/tester/developer easier.

The labs and demos are very important part of learning J and I think they
are very important to make J7 better and easier to use.


2011/10/18 Ian Clark <[email protected]>

> > It is interesting to try out the labs in both GTK and JHS.
>
> And while you're at it, please remember to record your results at:
>   http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Addons/labs/labs/ControlLabs
>
> (Work has stalled since May. Come on, J Community... these still need
> testing and it's up to us.)
>
>
> 2011/10/17 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>:
> > It is interesting to hear that you use JHS for your work.
> >
> > I like JHS and would like to use it more but I seem to be a bit stuck in
> GTK
> > and use JHS only occasionally and see I need to spend more time on it.
> >
> > I guess there is a threshold to pass over to become fluent enough in the
> JHS
> > side of the world.
> >
> > As far as I understand from some of the messages then some people seem to
> be
> > stuck in J6 and have a difficult time crossing over to J7.
> >
> > It is interesting to try out the labs in both GTK and JHS.
> >
> > Some of them do have problems and they are different in each.
> >
> > I was running the same lab in both the other day and I needed to look for
> > text and in the GTK part the text at the beginning was gone but it was
> still
> > there in the JHS side.
> >
> > It can be a setting somewhere but the default settings seem to allow more
> of
> > the IJX session to grow bigger in the JHS side.
> >
> > 2011/10/17 Eric Iverson <[email protected]>
> >
> >> The jhs jijs problems stem from the complexity of the html5
> contenteditable
> >> control. The html support for this control was new at the time jhs was
> >> developed and unfortunately support (and bugs) varied greatly across the
> >> various browsers. The situation has stabalized and I am convinced that
> with
> >> some serious effort the problems with jhs jijs could be resolved.
> >> Unfortunately right now this is not a Jsoftware priority. A wonderful
> >> exercise for an interested party.
> >>
> >> I use JHS exclusively for my own work and deal with the situation as
> >> follows:
> >>
> >> 1. for local JHS (files on the same machine as JHS server) I use my
> editor
> >> of choice (currently gedit because it is pretty much the same across
> >> windows/linux/mac) for script editing and my own dead simple project
> >> manager
> >> to handle script loads and opens.
> >>
> >> 2, for remote JHS I use the new (not yet part of the pacman jhs update)
> >> jijs
> >> editor built for the ipad. This editor uses a simple textarea edit
> control
> >> and although missing syntax coloring behaves nicely. This was initially
> >> driven because the iphone/ipad devices don't support contenteditable at
> >> all.
> >> But I have found that for remote editing the simple textarea works
> nicely,
> >> reliably and is adequate for most needs.
> >>
> >> Over the next few weeks I hope to make updates available that will make
> >> these two approaches more available.
> >>
> >> Meanwhile if you are using JHS locally I'd suggest using a local editor
> and
> >> providing a JHS shortcut to do the load as this will likely meet your
> needs
> >> better than the current JHS jijs form.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Arthur Anger <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have continually encountered minor difficulties in editing scripts
> in
> >> j7
> >> > displays, related to disappearance and reappearance of newlines and
> >> leading
> >> > blanks when copying and pasting within or between execution and script
> >> > windows.
> >> >  It had become clear to me that there is some form of invisible
> >> formatting
> >> > information at the front of each line.
> >> >
> >> > In the last few days I have been struggling with encapsulating some
> >> > debugging
> >> > commands for convenience, and run into major inconveniences--spelling
> >> > errors
> >> > pointing to various uses of 13!:3.  I thought that I had boiled down
> the
> >> > examples to a significant few, but kept getting inconsistent results
> as I
> >> > tried
> >> > variations.  At long last, I examined the stored script with a. i.,
> and
> >> > found
> >> > those formatting characters faithfully copied in front of the
> "erroneous"
> >> > verb.
> >> >
> >> > Executing < 226 128 139{ a. will show the invisibility of the
> >> > three-character
> >> > sequence found in my screen-copied example.
> >> >
> >> > I would hope that the file-updating portions of the JHS code could
> weed
> >> out
> >> > these characters when pasted in places where they don't belong.
>  Thanks.
> >> > --Art Anger
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> >
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> >
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Fornustekkum II
781 Hornafirði,
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gsm: +3546985532
twitter: @flugfiskur
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Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans

góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
          /|_      .-----------------------------------.
         ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
     ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
    /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
   (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
   |     ) |         (\_ _/)
  (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
   `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
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