I can not figure out why advancing the labs in JHS is sometimes ESC A and sometimes ctrl +.
2011/10/18 Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > To show an example about the confusion about the labs here is one: > > > Turtle lab > in GTK I get the line > load 'graphics/jturtle' > > In JHS I get the line > load 'turtle' > and then execution fails > not found: C:\j701/turtle > > JHS seems to be using lab from addons/labs/labs/general > > GTK is using lab from addons/graphics/jturtle > > The testing page lists addons/labs/labs for the turtle > > Running the lab in each starts and looks the same but then the JHS labs > fails > > > 2011/10/18 Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > >> I have always been a great fan of labs. >> >> In the J6 labs/demos are absolutely great. >> >> In J7 there is somewhat of a confusion about how to feel about labs and >> demos. >> >> I have mixed feelings what to say or do about labs and demos in J7. >> >> I looked at the page you refer to and I think it is a god beginning. >> >> I counted the entries on the page and counted 49 labs >> >> On the JHS labs choosing page I counted 77 labs >> >> In the GTK labs selection I counted 83 labs >> >> In the labs selection the full names are a bit different between JHS and >> GTK >> >> I would like to see the same name in both and I would also like to see the >> columns from the test page of the status of the lab if it is fully tested >> and working or if it is still under some kind of transfer problem and then I >> mean where I am choosing the lab in JHS and GTK to make life for the >> user/tester/developer easier. >> >> The labs and demos are very important part of learning J and I think they >> are very important to make J7 better and easier to use. >> >> >> 2011/10/18 Ian Clark <[email protected]> >> >>> > It is interesting to try out the labs in both GTK and JHS. >>> >>> And while you're at it, please remember to record your results at: >>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Addons/labs/labs/ControlLabs >>> >>> (Work has stalled since May. Come on, J Community... these still need >>> testing and it's up to us.) >>> >>> >>> 2011/10/17 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>: >>> > It is interesting to hear that you use JHS for your work. >>> > >>> > I like JHS and would like to use it more but I seem to be a bit stuck >>> in GTK >>> > and use JHS only occasionally and see I need to spend more time on it. >>> > >>> > I guess there is a threshold to pass over to become fluent enough in >>> the JHS >>> > side of the world. >>> > >>> > As far as I understand from some of the messages then some people seem >>> to be >>> > stuck in J6 and have a difficult time crossing over to J7. >>> > >>> > It is interesting to try out the labs in both GTK and JHS. >>> > >>> > Some of them do have problems and they are different in each. >>> > >>> > I was running the same lab in both the other day and I needed to look >>> for >>> > text and in the GTK part the text at the beginning was gone but it was >>> still >>> > there in the JHS side. >>> > >>> > It can be a setting somewhere but the default settings seem to allow >>> more of >>> > the IJX session to grow bigger in the JHS side. >>> > >>> > 2011/10/17 Eric Iverson <[email protected]> >>> > >>> >> The jhs jijs problems stem from the complexity of the html5 >>> contenteditable >>> >> control. The html support for this control was new at the time jhs was >>> >> developed and unfortunately support (and bugs) varied greatly across >>> the >>> >> various browsers. The situation has stabalized and I am convinced that >>> with >>> >> some serious effort the problems with jhs jijs could be resolved. >>> >> Unfortunately right now this is not a Jsoftware priority. A wonderful >>> >> exercise for an interested party. >>> >> >>> >> I use JHS exclusively for my own work and deal with the situation as >>> >> follows: >>> >> >>> >> 1. for local JHS (files on the same machine as JHS server) I use my >>> editor >>> >> of choice (currently gedit because it is pretty much the same across >>> >> windows/linux/mac) for script editing and my own dead simple project >>> >> manager >>> >> to handle script loads and opens. >>> >> >>> >> 2, for remote JHS I use the new (not yet part of the pacman jhs >>> update) >>> >> jijs >>> >> editor built for the ipad. This editor uses a simple textarea edit >>> control >>> >> and although missing syntax coloring behaves nicely. This was >>> initially >>> >> driven because the iphone/ipad devices don't support contenteditable >>> at >>> >> all. >>> >> But I have found that for remote editing the simple textarea works >>> nicely, >>> >> reliably and is adequate for most needs. >>> >> >>> >> Over the next few weeks I hope to make updates available that will >>> make >>> >> these two approaches more available. >>> >> >>> >> Meanwhile if you are using JHS locally I'd suggest using a local >>> editor and >>> >> providing a JHS shortcut to do the load as this will likely meet your >>> needs >>> >> better than the current JHS jijs form. >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Arthur Anger <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > I have continually encountered minor difficulties in editing scripts >>> in >>> >> j7 >>> >> > displays, related to disappearance and reappearance of newlines and >>> >> leading >>> >> > blanks when copying and pasting within or between execution and >>> script >>> >> > windows. >>> >> > It had become clear to me that there is some form of invisible >>> >> formatting >>> >> > information at the front of each line. >>> >> > >>> >> > In the last few days I have been struggling with encapsulating some >>> >> > debugging >>> >> > commands for convenience, and run into major >>> inconveniences--spelling >>> >> > errors >>> >> > pointing to various uses of 13!:3. I thought that I had boiled down >>> the >>> >> > examples to a significant few, but kept getting inconsistent results >>> as I >>> >> > tried >>> >> > variations. At long last, I examined the stored script with a. i., >>> and >>> >> > found >>> >> > those formatting characters faithfully copied in front of the >>> "erroneous" >>> >> > verb. >>> >> > >>> >> > Executing < 226 128 139{ a. will show the invisibility of the >>> >> > three-character >>> >> > sequence found in my screen-copied example. >>> >> > >>> >> > I would hope that the file-updating portions of the JHS code could >>> weed >>> >> out >>> >> > these characters when pasted in places where they don't belong. >>> Thanks. >>> >> > --Art Anger >>> >> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> > For information about J forums see >>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >> > >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> For information about J forums see >>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur >>> > Fornustekkum II >>> > 781 Hornafirði, >>> > t-póst: [email protected] >>> > gsm: +3546985532 >>> > twitter: @flugfiskur >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming >>> > >>> > >>> > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari >>> einfaldleikans >>> > >>> > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum >>> > /|_ .-----------------------------------. >>> > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | >>> > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | >>> > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | >>> > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' >>> > | ) | (\_ _/) >>> > (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ >>> > `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur >> Fornustekkum II >> 781 Hornafirði, >> t-póst: [email protected] >> gsm: +3546985532 >> twitter: @flugfiskur >> http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming >> >> >> Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans >> >> góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum >> /|_ .-----------------------------------. >> ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | >> ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | >> / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | >> ( -. | `-----------------------------------' >> | ) | (\_ _/) >> (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ >> `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ >> > > > > -- > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > Fornustekkum II > 781 Hornafirði, > t-póst: [email protected] > gsm: +3546985532 > twitter: @flugfiskur > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum > /|_ .-----------------------------------. > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > | ) | (\_ _/) > (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ > `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ > -- Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur Fornustekkum II 781 Hornafirði, t-póst: [email protected] gsm: +3546985532 twitter: @flugfiskur http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum /|_ .-----------------------------------. ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | ( -. | `-----------------------------------' | ) | (\_ _/) (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
