The labtext.txt in jgtk can disable individual labs that do not work in J701. All labs are enabled now to make it easier for the J community to help testing labs. After testing is over, we can again filter using labtext.
Втр, 29 Ноя 2011, Ian Clark писал(а): > Both are capable of being fixed -- even if it's only to give helpful > error messages. > > Why don't JHS and JGTK use the same method of updating & finding their > labs? And where exactly was the pain for the user in j602's way of > doing it? > > 2011/11/29 Björn Helgason <gos...@gmail.com>: > > The other is not good if it tells you about a file should be there and it > > is not there. > > > > In JHS the scan guaranties that if it is reported it is there. > > > > Less administration and easier to move things around and create new. > > > > 2011/11/29 Ian Clark <earthspo...@gmail.com> > > > >> It is not "nice" if it causes puzzling behavior for a new user. Like > >> having to quit and restart after installing addons (with no mention > >> anywhere of the need to do this). > >> > >> 2011/11/29 Björn Helgason <gos...@gmail.com>: > >> > That is the GTK behavior I guess > >> > > >> > I like the JHS way much better. > >> > It is more flexible and nice. > >> > > >> > 2011/11/29 Ian Clark <earthspo...@gmail.com> > >> > > >> >> Yes, the labs concerned are present in their ~addons/math/ folders. > >> >> > >> >> And when I copy them to: ~addons/labs/labs/math/ -they appear in the > >> >> dropdown on restarting j64-701 and work fine. > >> >> > >> >> They are also listed correctly (?) in: ~addons/config/config.ijs > >> >> (which ensures their appearance in the Labs menu in j602) --but I > >> >> guess JHS isn't currently using that? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Eric Iverson < > >> eric.b.iver...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > I think JHS labs gets it list from the contents of ~addons/labs/labs. > >> If > >> >> > you are seeing some labs and they are working perhaps your labs > >> weren't > >> >> > included in the jal update of labs. As a start verify the labs your > >> want > >> >> > are in your addons folder. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Ian Clark <earthspo...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> No, Björn, the labs are just not there. I know what they look like, > >> >> >> 'cos I wrote 'em. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 2011/11/28 Björn Helgason <gos...@gmail.com>: > >> >> >> > The list of labs in JHS is a bit tricky to understand. > >> >> >> > The name you see is not the name of the file but the name of the > >> lab > >> >> you > >> >> >> > see in the beginning of the file. > >> >> >> > Open a lab and you see what is there. > >> >> >> > It is a great tool to use as a teaching tool and so easy to work > >> with. > >> >> >> > Just change the contents of a file and you have a new lab. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > 2011/11/28 Ian Clark <earthspo...@gmail.com> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Even after restarting, there are labs (viz. cal.ijt and uu.ijt) > >> which > >> >> >> >> I see have been downloaded and apparently installed > >> >> >> >> (i.e they are listed in ~addons/labs/labs/lablist.txt and > >> >> >> >> ~addons/config/config.ijs) -yet do not appear in the Labs > >> dropdown. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Just where does jhs get the contents of the labs dropdown from? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> 2011/11/28 Björn Helgason <gos...@gmail.com>: > >> >> >> >> > When you start JHS it scans for the ijt files and it does not > >> find > >> >> >> them > >> >> >> >> > before you do the install of the addons. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > So if you create a new ijt file you need to restart the JHS so > >> it > >> >> will > >> >> >> >> find > >> >> >> >> > it. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > After that you can change the file and it will read the changes > >> >> just > >> >> >> >> > restart the lab and no need to restart JHS > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > 2011/11/28 Ian Clark <earthspo...@gmail.com> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> There are two downloads for the Mac, and I've just tried the > >> same > >> >> >> >> >> steps with the other one: > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> JVERSION > >> >> >> >> >> Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25 build: Feb 6 2011 16:16:29 > >> >> >> >> >> Library: 7.01.043 > >> >> >> >> >> Platform: Darwin 64 > >> >> >> >> >> Installer: j701a_mac64.dmg > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> InstallPath: /Applications/j64-701 > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> In this version I'm pleased to confirm that studio > labs... > >> works > >> >> >> just > >> >> >> >> >> fine. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Björn says: > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > After installing the labs you restart JHS server and refresh > >> the > >> >> >> >> browser. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I didn't do that for j64-701 -- and it still worked. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> However, taking the hint, I've gone back to j701 (32-bit) and > >> >> >> >> >> restarted both the server and the jijx browser page. > >> >> >> >> >> Now studio > labs... works in j701 also !! > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I've no way of telling whether it was due to restarting j701, > >> or > >> >> >> >> >> running j64-701 successfully in-between. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Ian Clark < > >> earthspo...@gmail.com > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > Coming back to j701 jhs after a long break, I have > >> reinstalled > >> >> it > >> >> >> >> afresh: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > JVERSION > >> >> >> >> >> > Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25 > >> >> >> >> >> > Library: 7.01.040 > >> >> >> >> >> > Platform: Darwin 32 > >> >> >> >> >> > Installer: j701a_mac_intel.dmg > >> >> >> >> >> > InstallPath: /Applications/j701 > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > I next installed all addons by typing: > >> >> >> >> >> > install 'all' > >> >> >> >> >> > Pacman (accessed via menu: link > jal) confirms that all > >> addons > >> >> are > >> >> >> >> >> > installed and up to date. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > However, menu: studio > labs --does not work and gives the > >> >> message: > >> >> >> >> >> > --- > >> >> >> >> >> > No labs installed. > >> >> >> >> >> > Do pacman studio/labs install and try again. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Labs are interactive tutorials and are a good > >> >> >> >> >> > way to learn J. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Labs are not always current with the latest system > >> >> >> >> >> > and may run with minor errors that can be ignored. > >> >> >> >> >> > --- > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Do labs actually work yet in jhs? Or has something recently > >> >> broken? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Gary Robinson < > >> gary...@me.com> > >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I am trying J for the first time this morning. I quickly got > >> >> hung > >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> >> though, because the installation docs suggest trying > >> Studio|Labs. > >> >> >> When I > >> >> >> >> >> try to access it, it says > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> No labs installed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> Do pacman labs/labs install and try again. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> If I type > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> pacman labs/labs install > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> into the J console, nothing seems to happen. And if I > >> >> subsequently > >> >> >> >> try > >> >> >> >> >> Studio|Labs again, I get the same error message as before. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyone have any ideas? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Gary Robinson > >> >> >> >> >> >> CTO > >> >> >> >> >> >> Emergent Discovery, LLC > >> >> >> >> >> >> personal email: gary...@me.com > >> >> >> >> >> >> work email: grobin...@emergentdiscovery.com > >> >> >> >> >> >> Company: http://www.emergentdiscovery.com > >> >> >> >> >> >> Blog: http://www.garyrobinson.net > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> >> >> >> For information about J forums see > >> >> >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> >> >> For information about J forums see > >> >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> >> > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > >> >> >> >> > Fornustekkum II > >> >> >> >> > 781 Hornafirði, > >> >> >> >> > t-póst: gos...@gmail.com > >> >> >> >> > gsm: +3546985532 > >> >> >> >> > twitter: @flugfiskur > >> >> >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari > >> >> >> einfaldleikans > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af > >> skónum > >> >> >> >> > /|_ .-----------------------------------. > >> >> >> >> > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > >> >> >> >> > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > >> >> >> >> > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > >> >> >> >> > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > >> >> >> >> > | ) | (\_ _/) > >> >> >> >> > (`-. 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(='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ > >> >> >> >> > `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> >> > For information about J forums see > >> >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> >> >> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> >> For information about J forums see > >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > >> >> >> > Fornustekkum II > >> >> >> > 781 Hornafirði, > >> >> >> > t-póst: gos...@gmail.com > >> >> >> > gsm: +3546985532 > >> >> >> > twitter: @flugfiskur > >> >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari > >> >> einfaldleikans > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum > >> >> >> > /|_ .-----------------------------------. > >> >> >> > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > >> >> >> > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > >> >> >> > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > >> >> >> > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > >> >> >> > | ) | (\_ _/) > >> >> >> > (`-. 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(='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ > >> >> >> > `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ > >> >> >> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> > For information about J forums see > >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> For information about J forums see > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> >> > >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > For information about J forums see > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > >> > Fornustekkum II > >> > 781 Hornafirði, > >> > t-póst: gos...@gmail.com > >> > gsm: +3546985532 > >> > twitter: @flugfiskur > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > >> > > >> > > >> > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans > >> > > >> > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum > >> > /|_ .-----------------------------------. > >> > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > >> > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > >> > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > >> > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > >> > | ) | (\_ _/) > >> > (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ > >> > `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > > Fornustekkum II > > 781 Hornafirði, > > t-póst: gos...@gmail.com > > gsm: +3546985532 > > twitter: @flugfiskur > > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > > > > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans > > > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum > > /|_ .-----------------------------------. > > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > > | ) | (\_ _/) > > (`-. '--.) 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