On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:02:48 +0100
Ioannis Aslanidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think that there is a problem of concept. If a bug is marked
> INVALID, it's because it is not a real bug. Marking a bug NOCHANGE or 
> NOCHANGEREQUIRED, not only overlaps with other resolutions, but fails
> to better explain the reason why the bug was closed, whereas INVALID
> indeed means that the reported bug is simply not a bug or that it was
> reported to the wrong place.

I don't think it overlaps, as I described before (whether it does or
not comes down to how you define it, of course).

As to knowing why the bug was closed, personally I would rather the
closure flag indicate the impact on the tree etc - i.e. whether
something was changed (FIXED), could have changed but didn't
(WONTFIX) or would have changed but couldn't be changed (CANTFIX) or
in no way indicated a change (NOCHANGE).

Bugs filed in the wrong place should just be re-assigned to the right
place, not closed INVALID (at least, not at the point where it's still
in the wrong place).

> Even though it might look harsh to the user to get such a resolution, 
> it's also harsh for the developers to have to handle bugs that are
> not related to them.
> 
> Still, changing the name from INVALID to NOTABUG + NOTOURBUG does
> make sense, as the meaning doesn't get lost.

I don't think we need NOTOURBUG.  Anything that's a real bug, but not a
bug in what we do, can be marked UPSTREAM.

> 
> Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> > On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:14:38 +0100
> > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:34:21 +0100
> >> "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
> >>> INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo
> >>> Experience.  We've all seen it many times, I'm sure.
> >>>
> >>> Arguably no bug is invalid in the normal sense - if someone raises
> >>> an issue, they have an issue, regardless what we think of it.  To
> >>> that end I'd like to propose bugzilla be reconfigured to use the
> >>> phrase "NOCHANGE" instead of "INVALID".  NOCHANGE would indicate
> >>> that whatever the original issue, no change is needed on our part
> >>> to resolve the issue.
> >> _If_ it's changed then please to something else, NOCHANGE would
> >> overlap with other values (WONTFIX, CANTFIX, WORKSFORME) and isn't
> >> that obvious to me at least. A fake resolution that's mentioned on
> >> IRC from time to time is NOTABUG which would fit better here.
> > 
> > Well, I meant for NOCHANGE to be "no change needed", but figured
> > NOCHANGEREQUIRED is a bit longwinded.  It implies the issue is
> > understood, it has been explained to the bug reporter, but requires
> > no change to anything:
> > 
> > CANTFIX: the problem exists, but no sensible way to fix it exists
> > WONTFIX: the problem exists, but for some reason it won't be fixed
> > WORKSFORME: can't replicate
> > 
> > NOCHANGE: no change needed
> > 
> > The problem I have with NOTABUG is pretty much the same problem I
> > have with INVALID - it's not as severe, but it still does the same
> > thing to the user (i.e. slaps him with a wet fish rather than a
> > frozen one).
> > 


-- 
Kevin F. Quinn

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